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    CPU utilization again

    Has anyone found a way to solve the high cpu utilization with v5 beta. Battery life on a notebook with this problem is zilch.
    Anyone know of a way to keep the program running and turn off cpu use, perhaps with xbasic?

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    RE: CPU utilization again

    Russ:

    As I understand from reading this board, Intel created a program that specifically addressed this issue. I am unsure if it works with later versions of Windows, specifically Win 2000 and XP... You should do some research.

    Try a search on GOOGLE for INTEL POWERMON.EXE .

    Craig

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      #3
      RE: CPU utilization again

      If I remember correctly (which is always suspect) patching this causes other problems. If that is the case then this isn't an option. I was sort of thinking that an xbasic command that would stop codebase from updating indexes (if this is the activity that causes this)would help with the problem. then at least one could turn this off, for instance if Alpha is minimized. I seem to recall that many of the v5 builds seemed to lower cpu usage about 10 seconds after minimizing. This no longer seems to be the case with a recent build. Nothing scientific here but perhaps something was changed. I realize it probably is due to MS or intel bugs, but nonethe less they are unlikely to do anything about it. This is sort of like the early problems with the menus. Alpha finally gave up on MFC's and did the whole thing in xbasic.
      I was planning on trying to use alpha on notebooks for salesmen. In a case like this the battery issue pops up. On a desktop it doesn't seem to affect the performance of other apps. although I have read it affects performance of multiple instances of A5.
      After this is released and perhaps Selwyn has more time maybe he could give us the lowdown on this issue and whether maybe its something codebase will fix.
      I can work around this by not putting it on notebooks if it has to run on battery, but this is the only program where I have run into this.

      Russ

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        #4
        RE: CPU utilization again

        Oops, should have done the search first. Marty Cole reported in post 56689 that the cause has been identified and there will be a switch in V5.
        Does anyone know where that might be, if it's there in the latest build?

        Russ

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          #5
          RE: CPU utilization again

          Russ:

          Try starting the beta with the following switches ..

          -NODEBUG
          -NODBCHECK

          I haven't tested extensively but this does seem to reduce the CPU utilization back to something like normal.

          I'll be very interested in hearing your experience with this.

          Finian
          Finian

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            #6
            RE: CPU utilization again

            Finian:

            Win '98 shows significant improvement.

            -NODEBUG does not appear to be the effective factor, it is -NODBCHECK that reduces usage to near normal.

            O.K., now, why? Does this interupt the PeekMessage() loop?

            What side-effects are there?

            Anyway, thanks for the info.

            Craig

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              #7
              RE: CPU utilization again

              Finian

              My test on WinME shows about the same as Craig's. In one database cpu usage stayed at or near 100% all the time. Nodebug had little effect under any condition. However, nodbcheck dropped usage to about 35 to 45% with only occasional jumps to about 80%. I did see one interesting effect where neither switch was used. When a windows dialog was opened, usage would drop from the "usual" 100% to about 40%

              What does nodbcheck do and what effect will it have?

              Jerry

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                #8
                RE: CPU utilization again

                Perhaps Selwyn or Cian may have a chance to describe what the -NODBCHECK does. My explanation is almost certainly going to be off the mark.

                I would suggest (which I should have said before) that until the switches are announced "officially" they are used AYOR and that one should be on the lookout for any side effects.

                Finian
                Finian

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                  #9
                  RE: CPU utilization again

                  Thank you Finian, one more thing to play with. I'll let you know what I find.

                  Russ

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