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"HAVE AT IT" Update :)

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    "HAVE AT IT" Update :)

    Okay - all you wonderfully helpful and supportive folk...two things just happened that I'll share. One, I checked on some data that I had entered in one of those infamous tables (WRAP Roster), and found that the monetary figures had reverted back to what they were on Wed of last week. I had made the changes on Thur. Supposedly, data is backed up on Tue, Wed, and Thur, by the server. Bottom line, I gave in and started working with the data, only to discover it's now messing up more than ever...I will stick to my guns and refuse to even open Alpha until IT is willing to work with me.

    The second thing is that just before my boss was interrupted by the phone, he mentioned that IT is now looking into making my system a stand-alone system, again. So, it looks like I may have won this battle.

    I'll keep you posted.

    #2
    RE:

    Either you're in a time warp or someone has restored data over the network. I have watched your thread and I wonder if perhaps you have a backup program on the server that is supposed to backup the clients on the network (overnight)that is programmed (scripted) wrong and is restoring your files to a previous version. One way to prevent this is to unplug the network cable before you leave at the end of the day. IT might not like this though.

    Nahhh!
    Probably a time warp.

    Russ

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      #3
      RE:

      Hello Wanda,

      As I said before, this stuff just doesn't happen all by itself. IMHO, Alpha has nothing to do with what is happening. Somebody, something, some routine, is messing with your data, probably inadvertantly. Do you have a zip drive? If not, you can find them for as little as $50. Copy the database folder (hopefully you have all files in the same folder) to the zip drive at night and carry the zip disk with you. Now when you have weird data replacement happening, check the zip drive and you will find that your data is as you left it. Even with your IT department calling the shots, you can still take control of the situation. If you did your own backup each night to a zip, then in the morning you could copy your backed up files from the zip over the server files. You can take control of this situation. Again, IMHO it has nothing to do with Alpha.

      Good luck,
      Jim

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        #4
        RE:

        hi:

        randomness is not on the side of your im dept..

        "One, I checked on some data that I had entered in one of those infamous tables (WRAP Roster), and found that the monetary figures had reverted back to what they were on Wed of last week."

        i think you've got a "smoking gun" scenerio, data would have no way of randomly going back to a pre-dfined state. a check of the backup maintenance schedules should reveal where things have gone awry. perhaps an automated backup is not as it should be.

        if you ever do find the answer post it! ... this is a pretty good cliff-hanger.


        regards,

        ed

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          #5
          RE:

          Jim's suggestion is sound. I have at least one extra zip drive. Just let me know where you want it sent. No charge.

          We gonna beat this sucker yet.
          There can be only one.

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            #6
            RE:

            I have to agree Ed. Watching this one to see how it turns out. "As Wandas IT World Turns". If I had to choose, I would go with Russ's faulty backup/restore. That sounds the most logical. Altho, you would think someone else would notice other files changing. Interesting, very interesting.

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              #7
              HAVE AT IT UPDATE :)

              Hey all - so why did the subject on this thread only say "RE" - or is that just my machine. I've re-entered the subject, this post, so maybe it'll show up...does everyone else see just "RE"?


              Russ, restoring a previous version of a backup could be one problem, but that wouldn't explain why dates entered back to 1999 were deleted. We're probably experiencing 2 or more problems...I say "we", because of the following my original thread has acquired. No, I don't have a zip drive - I used to, and had no problems...then IT "upgraded" my system - new flat screen and all - but no ability to backup from my setup.

              Jim - Great idea :) They can do whatever they want with my data - I'll just restore it every morning (as soon as I get a zip drive) - and we'll all live happily ever after :)

              Stan - YOU'RE SO GENEROUS!!! I may take you up on that offer, but I think my supe is getting one ordered for me...I will let you know. THANK YOU!

              Ed, ya' know - I could always ask IT AGAIN when and how the server is set up to back up my system...but would I know if the answer is accurate? What's the rule, here - get the same answer 3 times in a row and it means it's correct? HMMM, may be on to something, here..."Cliff hanger", huh? This IS a good plot - my little wheels are turning, now. Just imagine where the story could lead...wasn't there a threat of a sledge hammer coming down on my system, last week? I could go bezonkers and end up in the nut farm - or, my altered data could reveal some secret, governmental plot, or...well, you get the jist - maybe I should go back to writing novels! Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever really know what the problem(s) is (are).

              Mick - LOVE THE TITLE...As Wanda's IT World Turns...as I mentioned to Russ, a faulty b/u-restore could be one problem, but that doesn't explain why dates entered back in 1999 have been deleted. Also, the reason no one else is noticing the problems is because I'm the only one using the Alpha program, here.

              Lately, when I give my Supe a report, I state that it's a toss up as to whether it's accurate...well - that's the truth!

              Stay tuned for the next episode of, "As Wanda's IT World Turns".

              Wanda - guess I'll have to come up with a pen name... how's Vindy Vondie Voo!!!

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                #8
                RE: HAVE AT IT UPDATE :)

                Wanda,

                I've noticed that quotation marks in the subject line of a reply have strange results sometimes. Maybe that's what blanked out the original subject description...

                -- tom

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                  #9
                  RE: HAVE AT IT UPDATE :)

                  Hi Tom. I wondered if that was it...I'll refrain from now on, from using quotations in the subject line. Thanks :)

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                    #10
                    RE: HAVE AT IT UPDATE :)

                    Wanda,

                    If there is a problem with the backup and restore, then you can test it.
                    Go to notepad and create a file called today.txt and put in today's date. Then, save it in the same directory as your Alpha data.

                    Tomorrow, open today.txt and have a look. If the file doesn't exist, then an old version of the directory was restored. If it does, it should be yesterday's (today's) date. If it is, update it and try again the next day.

                    I the dates don't work, you have hard evedence that has nothing to do with A5!

                    Pat
                    Pat Bremkamp
                    MindKicks Consulting

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                      #11
                      RE: HAVE AT IT UPDATE :)

                      Thanks, Pat. I'll do that. I'll send a post tomorrow a.m. to let you know :) - Vindy Vondie Voo

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                        #12
                        RE:

                        Wanda,

                        Two things.

                        1. I'd like to modify someone's previous suggestion of a temporary 'disconnect' from the network.
                        If you really don't need/want the network, then...
                        A. Remove the network cable from the back of the computer.
                        B. Place a little piece of scotch tape over the cable connecter.
                        C. reinsert the cable.

                        It should take a few days before someone figures out what is going on (relealize they have a problem). :)
                        If the problem doesn't happen during that time, voila! It's a network problem!

                        2. Forget "As Wanda's IT World Turns". Try "Where Wanda's Data Wanders". :)

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                          #13
                          RE:

                          Hi Melvin - Excellent idea! I'd have to do this at night before going home, and then remove it in the a.m., because the server is also my connection to the internet. If I couldn't get to this message board, I'd really go insane! The other possible problem is that my data may be stored on the server at all times. Sure, I could copy it all over to Drive C - but then Drive C recently acted like a shared drive...it could just "look" like C drive, but really be a shared drive. Can anyone tell me if the real drive C can be hidden? The real Drive C HAS to be there, doesn't it? GEEZ!!! I never in my life thought I'd be so obsessed with getting my own zip drive!


                          BTW - the novel/movie/sitcom name is catchy...how about, "Things That Go Bump In The Night, When Wanda's Data Doesn't Deliver..." There was a witch called Wanda, remember? LOL!

                          Vindy Vondie Voo

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                            #14
                            RE:

                            There was A Fish Named Wanda as well.
                            There can be only one.

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                              #15
                              RE:

                              And Wicked Wanda...but I always correct people and try to make them believe that it's Wonderful Wanda! Mostly, people think of me as Wacked-out Wanda, or Wretched Wanda...I heard, though, that there was a Steelhead named Stan, but I suppose you'd much better relate to Stupendous Stan!

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