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    Permissions and 3rd party exe

    I tend to work with people that might fall into the category of "know just enough to be dangerous" when it comes to computers. So they are more prone to 'delete' the shortcut and then try to manufactor another from the exe in the folder.

    I say that as a preface to why I made a "startup application". The application is just a few lines of Liberty Basic code that utilizes the RUN Command. Anyway what I found was that I could startup my A5 applications but it couldn't "find" any forms after the startup form (which is based on a dummy table). Oddly when I entered the app (using a hotspot) I saw NO forms or reports/letters... just the tables and the paths were not available. It was vexing me for some time because if I just clicked on the Alpha5.exe (runtime) and then opened the application it worked fine (all forms available etc). It also worked if I just double clicked the .adb file. So what was my exe doing different?!?!

    Well as it turns out (I hope this is it) the permissions on my secretaries computer did not include "everyone" when it came to my application. So the exe I made was evidently not on the list because despite being opened by the user the user was not technically opening A5... or so it seems because upon changing permission to everyone it worked like a charm.

    So I guess I'm offering this as just a footnote for others but I also don't fully understand why I was able to get the startup form and no other forms? Shouldn't I get nothing if the issue is permissions? Maybe the permission thing is a red herring but now that it works I can't really tinker with it. Anyway if anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate any feedback.

    Thanks,

    ~joe
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    RE: Permissions and 3rd party exe

    Without a detailed description of what permissions were set and on what tables, it's going to be difficult to figure out what the problem is.

    But, the best solution is set the permissions that the user needs and go from there rather than trying to figure out why something in Windows didn't work the way you expected it to.
    Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team

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      RE: Permissions and 3rd party exe

      I'm sorry I meant to follow up on this. As it turns out I also fall into the "know just enough to be dangerous" when it comes to A5 and creating a 3rd party exe. I've used LB before to launch programs using the RUN Command and generally if the exe was in the same folder as the program it was to launch I didn't need to hard code the path (although even some that weren't in the folder could be launched without the path - for example notepad).

      Well in this case it seems that something was happening that is quite frankly above my paygrade. While it "appeared" that the program was being launched it was evidently just a "ghost" of some kind. So while it opened up the start form it couldn't find the the other forms.

      I don't have time to make a demo of the problem right now but it is interesting. Just out of curiosity I would like to know what is happening...

      ~joe

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        RE: Permissions and 3rd party exe

        I was just moving some files around and noticed that the runtime provides a "Recently opened databases.txt".

        Well it had two entries:

        One was a direct path C:\program files\ etc etc
        The other included the user C:\Documents and Settings\ etc

        So evidently without the path hard coded a "user" issue of some sort arises. Too bad because I was hoping to avoid hard coding the paths. No good reason - just thought it would be nice to have some flexibility.

        The cat was skinned with a different method...

        ~joe

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