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    settings to runtime shadow

    Question. I had a situation where I had created a custom menu, and even though I created it in A5V5, the convert dialog came up when it was first used. I answered always convert/don't ask me again - but it did not copy those settings to the runtime shadow on the workstations.

    Now while my current app for the client can be opened on up to maybe 25 terminals, (and, thus you would have to go to 25 terminals, and enter the settings for each one,) we are working on one that will be installed on over 200 terminals, (although it won't be used by more than 25 at a time.) So, going to 200 terminals to enter the settings would be horrendous. Is there a way, especially via xbasic, to copy the settings from the master on the server to all workstations, as when they refresh the shadow?
    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
    972 524 8714
    [email protected]

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    RE: settings to runtime shadow

    Martin,

    Where are the settings being entered?

    I was thinking of all the ways you could do this, and then began to wonder why you wouldn't just have a table in your app to store settings.

    XBasic has file commands....

    I don't think I'm getting the problem.

    ===Blake===

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      RE: settings to runtime shadow

      Martin

      The settings related to a database are saved in the database data dictionary, which does update on a refresh. Setings that apply to the program are saved locally in the A5 program files, which do not. Hoever, you should not be getting a convert message if the menu and toolbar were created in A5V5. It is possible the message was for a toolbar created in a previous version.

      Once all of the menus and toolbars are converted to the latest configuration, you should not get that message at all. After a refresh is done on each workstation, none of them should see any issues either, as all menus and toolbars are in the database data dictionary, which is updated on refresh.

      Jerry

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        RE: settings to runtime shadow

        Jerry, that's what I thought, too.

        Try this, in settings, use the default options for "old menus" and "old toolsbars" - i.e., prompt=yes. (This is one of the settings that does not get refreshed from the shadow, on mine, anyway.)

        Then make a new blank menu - call it myblankmenu. Then, make two more, called myblankmenu_edit and myblankmenu_view, so you can prevent the user from having a right click menu for fields a given form.

        Then assign the menu myblankmenu for the rightclick menu for a form, and for a field on the form - apply to all fields. (This is the only way I know of to prevent right click menus for a form when in enter/edit mode.)

        Open the form, be sure you are in either enter or edit mode, and right click on one of the fields. See if you get the convert dialog.

        Although I am about 2 months away from needing to do this, I am wondering how I can come up with a routine that would ensure ALL settings for the runtime app are the same for all workstations, without doing it manually. Settings, like "preferences," must apparently be set from the local workstation.

        In theory, there should be a file I could copy from one to all that would catch the settings.

        They currently use Novel on the server where the app would reside, and want to use a Novel "push" to install the apps. So if I manually do the first install, if I were to copy certain files, then the "push" would do the same thing, thus insuring all settings would be the same.
        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
        972 524 8714
        [email protected]

        ____________________
        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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          RE: settings to runtime shadow

          Martin

          You only get the message if the menu is completely blank, i.e, no code at all. Just add a separator and the message goes away.

          Most of the other settings for the program are saved in the Windows registry settings. For example, the registry values to convert the menus is as follows

          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Alpha Software\Alpha Five 5.0\preferences\old_Menu]
          "conversion_preference"="Convert"
          "prompt"="Yes"

          A good rule of thimb is to design your databse to run with the default settings. Then any installation will run the same as the original.

          Jerry

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            RE: settings to runtime shadow

            Thanks
            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
            972 524 8714
            [email protected]

            ____________________
            "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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              RE: settings to runtime shadow

              Jerry, although I'm not sure of the syntax, could I just copy the entire "preferences" key. Although I see your point about doing it so that it will work with the defaults.
              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
              972 524 8714
              [email protected]

              ____________________
              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                RE: settings to runtime shadow

                Martin

                You could export the key from the development computer and import in back into another, by why bother. I don't like messing with the registry unless I must. Most of the settings effect development settings, not settings that effect a running program. Unless you have a specific need to set a setting of that type, I would avoid altering a registry key.

                Jerry

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