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    Program glitch

    Has anybody else noticed that "Ctrl+F4" doesn't close forms or browses like it's supposed to? I found that "Ctrl+Shift+F4" works instead! Was this an intentional change or is it broken?

    Derron

    #2
    RE: Program glitch

    I just checked the most recent onLine Alpha Help under ShortCut Keys and ctrl F4 was not listed at all. Looks like it isn't broken at all, it's just not there.

    -Barry

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      #3
      RE: Program glitch



      Click the upper left hand corner icon of a normal form, browse, or other object within Alpha 5. You'll see some options including ctrl - F4.

      You won't find it there in a dialog.

      If you open a normal form as a dialog, ctrl F4 (along with the upper left icon) goes away.
      Al Buchholz
      Bookwood Systems, LTD
      Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

      Occam's Razor - KISS
      Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
      Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
      When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
      "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
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        #4
        RE: Program glitch

        Ctrl + F4 has always been a "windows" shortcut for me. ie it closes the current (focused) window in a program.

        And Alt + F4 has been a close program windows shortcut.

        Maybe Alpha isn't responding under some conditions?

        Robin

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          #5
          RE: Program glitch

          Hi All,

          Just tried this in Alphasports.

          Ctrl+F4 closes open form.

          Alt+F4 closes Alpha.

          Regards

          Keith Hubert
          Guild Member
          London.
          Regards
          Keith Hubert
          Alpha Guild Member
          London.
          KHDB Management Systems
          Skype = keith.hubert


          For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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            #6
            RE: Program glitch

            Hi Keith,

            I just tried this in Alphasports to see if I got your results. Nope.........I press Ctrl+F4 and NOTHING happens at all. I'm running the latest patch. What could be going on here?

            Derron

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              #7
              RE: Program glitch

              I wonder which operating systems you guys might be using? Do you suppose the behaviour might depend on which system is running?

              -- tom

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                #8
                RE: Program glitch

                Derron

                I am running WinXP and the shortcut does close the forms. However, on forms with embedded browses, it sometimes took 2 tries. But they did close. I don't use many keystoke shortcuts since the days of Wordperfect for DOS, since a single mouse click is easier and faster the clicking 2 keys, but that is a personal preference.

                I doubt many people I work with who use a computer daily have any clue about most keyboard shortcuts. I have had to show them a few common ones many times. Most have only worked with a mouse. If a mouse click won't do it, it won't happen.

                Jerry

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                  #9
                  RE: Program glitch

                  Jerry,

                  I'm also running WinXP. I don't generally use keystroke shortcuts either. But, this is just one of those things that bugs me.....it should work and it doesn't! I hate when that happens. This shortcut worked in earlier builds and now it doesn't work in the current build of Alpha. That, to me, indicates somebody broke something when they were busy fixing something else.

                  Again, it's not a big deal but I hope someone at Alpha looks into it. It's these sort of little things that waste so much time when they occur.

                  Derron

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                    #10
                    RE: Program glitch

                    Derron Vandewege wrote:
                    -------------------------------
                    Hi Keith,

                    I just tried this in Alphasports to see if I got your results. Nope.........I press Ctrl+F4 and NOTHING happens at all.

                    Please be specific about what you did in Alphasports so I can try the same sequence and see if I get the same results.

                    I found that ctrl-f4 didn't work when from the main menu, I clicked review sales history - view selected customer.

                    The attached image shows that alt-f4 is enabled for that form.

                    Then I wondered why that form would be different. So I looked at the code that opens the form as a modal window. See second image in the attached file.

                    Changing the form open option to normal returns ctrl-f4.

                    Is that what is happening for you?


                    I'm running the latest patch. What could be going on here?

                    Derron
                    Al Buchholz
                    Bookwood Systems, LTD
                    Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                    Occam's Razor - KISS
                    Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                    Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                    When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                    "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                    Albert Einstein

                    http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                      #11
                      RE: Program glitch

                      All,
                      I run XP and have noticed that sometimes it close on either one, two or three, if it hasn't closed by the third attempt I use the X. I hate mice they eat all my banana's & cheese :-), this has been happening since I have started using Alpha (about 6 months) and just assumed it was a quirk. It works fine for me in Alpha Sports though! I have also noticed that sometimes when I want to open a new database using alt + f that dosen't work either and I have to click file and open.

                      Regards

                      Keith

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                        #12
                        RE: Program glitch

                        Al,

                        I repeated your experiment, step by step, changing that particular form to open as a normal (modeless) window. Indeed, the Ctrl-F4 option did then appear! But, alas, still nothing happens when I press Ctrl-F4! It is being offered as an option but does not work. Is this your experience also?

                        Derron

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                          #13
                          RE: Program glitch

                          Derron

                          No that is not my experience. Once I changed to normal, ctrl-f4 worked without failure.

                          Did you have other objects that show ctrl-f4 as an option, yet fail when you actually press ctrl-f4?

                          Let me know what they are and I'll try them on my machine.

                          Do you have another machine or keyboard that you can try?
                          Al Buchholz
                          Bookwood Systems, LTD
                          Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                          Occam's Razor - KISS
                          Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                          Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                          When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                          "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                          Albert Einstein

                          http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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