Contact Manager app

[Raymond Lyons]

Does anyone know of an A5 contact manager like app that we developers can use and modify in our own apps? Something like what Dan Blank made available several years ago (Dan, did you ever go farther with it in v5?). Jack Wheeler did some work too (in Learnalpha), but as I recall it did not work well in the downloaded version. Or has it been polished? And, no, I want more than just a calendar. I want to-do lists, appointments, calendars, preferably the whole nine contact manager yards

And please, I already wasted my money (@#$#%$&^) on the contact manager �template� that was offered when buying v5. It, as well as the rest of them I paid for, may be wonderful, but as I recall before I tossed them in the trash, they are not templates that a developer is free to use and modify in his own commercial apps (because of the accompanying restrictive license). To me that makes them useless. Normally I would have insisted on my money back, but I figured Alpha Software could use the extra money more than I needed it. Now just don�t tell me that someone else got all that money!

Ray Lyons

[Tom Cone Jr]

RE: Contact Manager app

Ray,

I guess I missed seeing it. What / where are the license terms for the A5V5 Contact Manager template?

-- tom

[Raymond Lyons]

RE: Contact Manager app

Since I don't think I still have that stuff, I may not be able to tell you. I would like to think I was only dreaming and that I am wrong about the license terms, but I don't think so. When I get time I'll look around and see if I still have the original files somewhere.

Ray

[davej]

RE: Contact Manager app

Raymond,

I just looked through the Contact Manager application, as it was originally shipped from Alpha, and I cannot find any copyright notice, or any notice of any kind. Is it possible that you might be thinking of the Alpha Five copyright notice instead?

Dave

[Raymond Lyons]

RE: Contact Manager app

Anything is possible but I am almost certain there was a separate quite restrictive license applying to all the included apps (or "templates"). It may have been an included on a paper document. If there really are no restrictions to incorporating all or part of it in our own commercial apps, I'd be happy to learn that. But then too, I don't recall the contact manager app being very full featured, so even if I can still find it, it might not do for what I want.

That said, I am perfectly capable of building my own contact manager app. I just don't want to waste time reinventing something that someone has already done and would be willing to donate or sell for a reasonable cost.

Ray

[Jim Chapman]

RE: Contact Manager app

Hello Ray,

>>And please, I already wasted my money (@#$#%$&^) on the contact manager �template� that was offered when buying v5. It, as well as the rest of them I paid for, may be wonderful, but as I recall before I tossed them in the trash, they are not templates that a developer is free to use and modify in his own commercial apps (because of the accompanying restrictive license).

[Tom Cone Jr]

RE: Contact Manager app

Jim,

This can get confusing.

There are two Contact Managers available.

One is a template found in the Databases subfolder of the Templates subfolder of the A5V5 folder.

The other is a 'for sale' Add On, in which all the source seems to be entirely exposed.

I've assumed they are both freely available for cannibalization and re-use, but in the case of the 'for sale' application I've assumed I would not be free to distribute it to others.

Cannot find the license for the Add On among my materials.

-- tom

[Dan Blank]

RE: Contact Manager app

Hi Ray,

I took my "Organizer" and moved it over to A5v5 and got it working. I've added a few touches, however, I wouldn't call it a true A5v5 app.

I am in the process of updating it, trying to take advantage of dialog boxes and the A5v5 calendar features. I typically work on this during the Christmas Holidays. So by January I should have it available.

I am also working on making the call back feature show up in the To Do List if you choose that feature.

If there are any specific features you would like send them my way and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks,

Dan

[PhilD]

RE: Contact Manager app

Here is the text from the readme file on the Alpha5 Cd

Order Enter, Time and Billing, and Contact Manager are sold separately. They are template applications that you can use as starting points for your own applications.

In order to install these applications, you must have purchased an "unlock key" from Alpha Software.

Please visit Alpha Software at www.alphasoftware.com to find out more about these applications.

From the website for the contact manager:

Released in conjunction with Alpha's Five Version 5, this product allows you to customize your application needs quickly.

Benefits:
Powerful, yet simple to operate and customize.

Includes Action Scripting and Xbasic Code.

To me this means that if you purchase it for 49.00 then it is yours to use in your application any way you want.

Phil

[Raymond Lyons]

RE: Contact Manager app

Phil,

That's what I would say also, and it is why I bought the add-on product. However, I am nearly certain that once one opens up the product one finds the restrictive license language. My trouble is that I can't find the files any longer, much less the key to open them up. Tomorrow I will try looking in various trash cans I have for software that I do not have any use for but have not yet hit the unretrievable one.

Ray

[Bo Vandenberg]

RE: Contact Manager app

I think you could argue that they wouldn't have called them 'templates' if you weren't expressly supposed to follow them with the new product you'd just bought.

I would find it restful and informative if there was an official word from Alphasoftware to the forum on this because I also find it unclear.

bo

[John Oesterle]

RE: Contact Manager app

Ray & Tom -

When you install any of the 3 "template" addins, you must agree to the following agreement. Perhaps John Magno, Selwyn or Richard can clarify.

- John O

*Copied from the agreement dialog*
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