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    Bruce Isaacson
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    Hello

    I am a new user and I have just recently installed patch_full_1494_1049 and now I am getting a good amount of mpx files on my desk top. It seems to be about every second or third time that I exit the program. It is stated that the program should erase these files, but it is not every time. Shut-downs have been all normal. Does anyone know how to stop this and if not how can I get them to dump into a file that I can discard more easily then cleaning up my desk-top??

    Thx

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Bruce,

    I don't know if it is a 'solution' as I think there is some problem with .mpx files. Following Selwyn's procedure in a discussion a phorum page or two back, this is what I did.

    Under Setings, Directories, Private Path: uncheck use windows temp folder and put in a path such as C:\a5mpx\
    (make sure the folder you use actually exists)
    Under Settings Queries check Delete all queries box

    Now the *.mpx files seem to be deleted when I shut down. I would guess that you can set the path in the private directory to whatever you want.

    Phil

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    This can also happen if you start the program by double clicking a shortcut that is on your desktop, but only if the 'Start In' directory is blank in the properties of the shortcut. If this is your situation, change the properties of the shortcut so that the Start In directory setting is not blank. If it's a shortcut to an ADB file, insert the actual path to the ADB. If it's a shortcut to the Alpha Five program itself, insert the physical path to the Alpha5 EXE file.

    -- tom

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Thanks for the help, I will try your fixes.

    Bruce

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    I have not had the problems with the mpx files until the latest patch after which I got lots. I tried the fixes outlined above by Tom and Phil which seems to have taken care of it.
    With a private path specified (as opposed to C:\temp) with very little testing Alpha now appears to delete the mpx files when properly closed. However now I am getting .asx, .alb,.alm.alx files in this specified path. The .asx files which don't seem to be listed in the A5 file list ($$*.asx) appear to be query definitions.
    It makes sense to have these in the private directory. It also makes sense to have the the .alb, .alm, and .alx files in the private directory in as much as they contain private (user) defined information. The problem is that I now seem to be collecting these various file types in different locations. Perhaps if the private directory is changed there should be some provision to note or delete these files that are in the old path.
    I had assumed that it was OK to delete anything with a $$ in front of it but if the $$*.asx files are saved queries I would not want to delete them. Can someone confirm that this is what they are and whether they are redundant and can be deleted?

    Thanks,
    Russ

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    I have the same problem too, my desktop shows nothing but .mpx files.

    I am developing and application as of right now. I don't mind deleting the .mpx files from the desktop every half hour, as long as there is going to be a fixed for this problem in upcoming patches.

    Is there going to be a fixed???



    Mario
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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Hi Mario,
    How have you been?
    I have found that if you put in the private path it removes the mpx's as long as there are no crashes or other events to strand them. They still seem to collect though if mistakes are made. (of course I never make mistakes :) ) What's odd is where they are showing up.

    Russ

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    Bruce Isaacson
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    I put in both fixes from Phil De Gruy and Tom Cone Jr. It seems to be doing the trick. It did stop the desk top mess not sure if I have other problems I need to do a lot more testing. Again thanks for the advice

    Bruce

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    There was a thread on this problem a short while ago that you can check out. Search for "Problems with Build 1494_1049 Full Version" That is the full title of the thread.

    Most users are not having the problem, however there are some common conditions that can cause it. Most are related to opening either Alpha or the database with a shortcut. A couple errors there and you will be putting mpx files in very odd places.

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    I already change the private path to C:\mpxs
    After playing with my application I noticed that what is causing the .mpx files in my desktop is the following event:
    I have a form with a menu with an option called "Control Panel".
    "Control Panel" conntains the following code:

    pass=ui_get_password("PASSWORD","Enter Password","","?")

    if alltrim(pass)="11223" then
    ControlPanel.Show()
    parentform.Close()
    else
    ui_msg_box("PASSWORD","Wrong Password",UI_STOP_SYMBOL)
    end if
    end

    This piece of code is the one generating the .mpx 's on my desktop.

    I will try different things to see if I can make it stop doing that.

    Any ideas???

    Mario
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    I am reposting because it didn't come on top of thread
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    I already change the private path to C:\mpxs
    After playing with my application I noticed that what is causing the .mpx files in my desktop is the following event:
    I have a form with a menu with an option called "Control Panel".
    "Control Panel" conntains the following code:

    pass=ui_get_password("PASSWORD","Enter Password","","?")

    if alltrim(pass)="11223" then
    ControlPanel.Show()
    parentform.Close()
    else
    ui_msg_box("PASSWORD","Wrong Password",UI_STOP_SYMBOL)
    end if
    end

    This piece of code is the one generating the .mpx 's on my desktop.

    I will try different things to see if I can make it stop doing that.

    Is the ControlPanel.show() the cause??
    Is the close parentform() ?

    Any ideas???

    Mario
    The Mexican

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Mario

    I have almost the exact same code on a menu form (different password) and it causes no problems.

    check = ui_get_password("Password","Enter password","","*")
    if check "mypassword"
    end
    end if
    :controlpanel.show()
    :controlpanel.restore()
    parentform.Close()

    In my own experience and extensive testing the only way I could get mpx files on the desktop was to open either A5 or the database from a shortcut on the desktop with no StartIn path listed in the shortcut.

    Jerry

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    I do open A5 from a shortcut. I will try to open A5 from the actual file and see if it helps.
    Will do more testing tomorrow at work.

    Mario
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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Ok, by changing the "Start in" on the Alpha shortcut I was able to get rid of the .mpx's on my desktop. Now A5 is putting them in my Alpha5 directory.
    And still when closing A5 it is not getting rid of them.

    All I can hope is for a fix on the next patch.


    Mario
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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Mario

    This may sound a little odd, but if you are using a shortcut on the desktop to open A5, set the start in path on the shortcut to the same path in A5 settings for the private path. This should put the mpx files in the private path. If they are there, A5 will delete them when the program closes.

    Jerry

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Why should users have to read all this detail, when it seems that the new build has caused the problem.

    I don't use A5 too much and I am not capable of anything but a simple Set, 2 tables a few field rules and one form.

    I started to log family photographs on Sunday and today I wondered why my desk top is cluttered. I vaugely remembered that and mpx file belonged to Alpha. That was after I thought I had a virus.

    The reason I am slow to adopt A5 is due to issues like this. Something has happened in the most recent build, pretty obvious I would say. Selwyn needs to get moving and stop this nonsense.

    I don't see why I should change my short cut key which has been in place for several months WITHOUT this happening.

    Are your there SELWYN?

    Steve Pick

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    "Why should users have to read all this detail, when it seems that the new build has caused the problem."

    Maybe so they can do something about it. Older builds also sometimes had problems with mpx files but the problems were not as visible. The newest build fixes some problems and created another. With something as complex as any modern program, this is not desirable, but also not unusual. This thread and others describe how to eliminate the problem until the new issue can be addressed, as I am sure it will be.

    Jerry

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    Default RE: mpx files all over desk top

    Jerry,

    It would be great if the routines that created query lists kept track of where they put them. However, queries are possible from virtually every single component within Alpha Five, so solving the problem this way would probably not be very practical. Would be better to pop up a warning message whenever the user's specified Private Directory or Start In values are empty.

    -- tom

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