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Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

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    Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

    Hello Ken:

    OK, since you asked, I will expand upon my little theory. Let me state right up front that I have no specific knowledge, everything I say below is limited to my perspective while sitting at a computer in suburban Maryland.

    I think waiting until ver 6 is ready to ship doesn�t appear to be a viable option for the company. Why do I say that?

    Ver 6 is a very complex undertaking and I�m sure they still have a great deal of work to complete before they�ll be ready to ship the product. Judging from past experience, we�re probably talking anywhere from 6-12 months, possibly longer since this will have to be a rock solid release if companies are going to use A5 as a front end to heavy duty back end databases

    Although adding Client-Server functionality will be an incredible achievement that will hopefully open up a lucrative and entirely new market to Alpha Software, Client-Server functionality probably has very little to offer most current customers.

    On the other hand, the Web Application Server [WAS] is relevant to the overwhelming majority of Alpha customers. In fact, I think it�s probably reached the point where integrating A5 with the web is a critical need for current Alpha users. Hence, the WAS is a product needed yesterday by the Alpha�s community, they cannot afford to wait much longer for that type of functionality. In my opinion, they certainly cannot wait another 6-12 months, or possibly even longer, until Ver 6 is rock solid before they ship the WAS.

    In my judgment, except for the usual long list of genies that have spoiled us in ver 5, it appears as if the WAS is probably ready to ship. I�m guessing Alpha Software can release a ver 5.5 update in the near future that includes the WAS and hopefully the new and vastly improved BROWSE model that Selwyn talked about at the Alpha Conference. Once this product is on the market, I�m sure they can add new WAS Genies to version 5.5 incrementally via patches.

    And let�s not forget the revenue stream that�s important to all companies, but especially Alpha Software. It could be a long time before ver 6 is ready to ship. However, coming up with an interim release, such as a ver 5.5, could produce a small, but steady stream of revenue, while Selwyn and his crack staff are working on the Client Server model.

    Just my opinion,
    Robert T

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    RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

    Hi,

    Look at message: 31544 another reason.

    Marcel
    Marcel

    I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
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      RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

      Hi robert,

      Thanks for your insight. I agree that:

      1. V6 is a ways off yet but I'm thinking 12-18 months, or more.
      2. "Hence, the WAS is a product needed yesterday" Absolutely, no doubt about it. How about last year? Close to release? Hmmmmmm

      If your gut feeling is correct (I hope it is) Selwyn's had a change in strategy. Being flexible and changing ones mind as situations change is positive.

      kenn
      TYVM :) kenn

      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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        RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

        Robert,

        Your reasoning is sound. But it seems that Selwyn made it pretty clear that WAS is a separate product. I bet "integrating" it into ver. 5 would be another major effort.

        Peter
        Peter
        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

        [email protected]
        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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          RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

          Hi Peter:

          It�s been about 3 months since the A5 Conference so I don�t remember exactly what Selwyn said. I thought he said it was a given the WAS would NOT be included in ver 5.

          However, I didn�t get the impression there was a technical hurdle involved, I thought it was merely a business decision. Maybe I�m wrong, but I would be very surprised to learn there is a technical reason why they cannot create a ver 5.5 that includes the WAS.

          Peter, do you remember Selwyn�s comments reference the new Browse they�ve developed?

          I clearly remember Selwyn stating the current browse is a version 1 relic and they were designing a completely new one from the ground up. I cannot remember if Selwyn said they�ve already rebuilt the new browse or if he said it was still under development. If it is in fact ready to ship, I think we clearly need an object oriented browse as part of the next interim release [if there is a ver 5.5 planned?]

          Robert T

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            RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

            Peter, do you remember Selwyn�s comments reference the new Browse they�ve developed?

            I clearly remember Selwyn stating the current browse is a version 1 relic and they were designing a completely new one from the ground up.

            Yep, you are correct.

            I cannot remember if Selwyn said they�ve already rebuilt the new browse or if he said it was still under development

            I got the impression that it wasn't quite complete. I seem to remember an interview with Cian in the Newsletter a while back, where Cian said he would complete the undelying (C+?) code that very weekend. Maybe at the conference they were still working in the UI aspect? I also remember Selwyn saying that v5.5 was no longer an objective. Hope Ken N. is right.

            Peter
            Peter
            AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

            [email protected]
            https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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              RE: Should Alpha Ship a Ver 5.5?

              Here is a link to 31544: http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/alphaphorum/read.php3?sortby=%3Cbr%3E%3Cb%3EWarning%3C/b%3E:%20%20Uninitialized%20variable%20or%20array%20index%20or%20property%20(sortby)%20in%20%3Cb%3E/usr/local/forum/apache/htdocs/alphaphorum/alpha_search.php3%3C/b%3E%20on%20line%20%3Cb%3E38%3C/b%3E%3Cbr%3E&direction=%3Cbr%3E%3Cb%3EWarning%3C/b%3E:%20%20Uninitialized%20variable%20or%20array%20index%20or%20property%20(direction)%20in%20%3Cb%3E/usr/local/forum/apache/htdocs/alphaphorum/alpha_search.php3%3C/b%3E%20on%20line%20%3Cb%3E39%3C/b%3E%3Cbr%3E&num=11&id=31552&thread=31537#MSG31544

              Lenny Forziati
              Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
              Alpha Software Corporation

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