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    Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

    Hello. I figured some of you out there have some experience with larger networks. I am wondering what software and hardware is needed to run my older PCs as thin clients.
    1) If I want to run 10 PCs on a network, can I just get 1 copy of Microsoft 2000 Server with a 10-user license, and then 10 client licenses for Terminal Services? From what I can see that would cost about $2000, less than the cost of upgrading all the PCs in my office to v5-capable.
    2)What kind of hardware do I need on the server to support 10 users running v5?
    3)Anyone done this yet with v5? I assume that network optimization is not required if terminal services are used.

    Thanks for any helpful guidance.
    - Peter

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    RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

    Here is a link that will help you. In short in seems you need the regular cals plus terminal server cals for each client.
    http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/samguide/tools/cal_guide/win2kterm.asp

    I can't speak to the demands of A5V5. I support a Citrix environment on Winnt Terminal server running our ERP software that connects via ODBC to SQL Server on a separate server. Our app is bloated so we can get 20 users on a machine with 4 450mhz Xeon processores and 1 gig of ram. I suspect A5 would run better much better than my app. Although you will have the database on the terminal server so go with nice fast scsi drives.

    One thing you could do for sizing is look at the amount of ram used by A5 on a pc running it and then multiply that by the number of clients and again by 1.5 for a good minimum amount of ram for the application. Make sure you allocate 3 times as much swap as the machine has physical ram. I've seen memory errors with less.

    Our server is a few years old, so now any machine you would buy would have a much faster processor. The Xeon line of intel is good because they have extra cache, up to 2mb right on the chip. This helps database apps that keep a lot of queries etc cached in memory.

    As far as the pc's, I would think anything above a 166mhz should be fine.

    I hope that helps you. If you have any other questions in more depth you can email me offline if you want. I am new to A5 so have zero experience with how it reacts in a network environment, but I am sure there are other here who can answer that part.

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      #3
      RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

      This is a nice way to get some extra life out of some older hardware/software.

      This should get you started: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/administration/terminal/tscaling.asp

      Thanks for your help in the past.

      George

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        RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

        Thanks to both of you. Is it difficult to set up terminal server? I have only set up peer-to-peer networks so far and have not dealt with any complex networking issues.

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          RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

          Not really you should just be able to set the server up as part of the workgroup you are using now. I assume you would be running the terminal server as a stand alone server and in a workgroup setup (no nt4 domain or win2k active directory setup). As long as the client computers can see the terminal server you should be fine.

          One gotcha is when installing programs after you have enabled terminal services is making sure the server is in the correct mode to install software this is done with the change user command. You want install mode when installing software and execute mode for running applications. If you are in the wrong mode for installing the server will bark at you and tell you you need to be in install mode. The commands are below.

          C:\>change user /?
          Change Install Mode.

          CHANGE USER {/EXECUTE | /INSTALL | /QUE

          /EXECUTE Enable execute mode (defaul
          /INSTALL Enable install mode.
          /QUERY Display current settings.

          Hope that helps,

          Ryan

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            RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

            I've done this with much success. I't works very well. I'm using a high speed connection but I'm also happy with dial up. Let me know if I can be of any help.

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              RE: Question about Microsoft Terminal Services

              I can vouch for Terminal Services with several users with a5v4.5.
              It would be nice to know if anyone out there is using Terminal Services, with a5v5, installed on a single server with at least 5 or 10 simulteaneous users.
              If so:
              What's the makeup of the server?
              How many simultaneous users?
              Is it a transactionally busy application?
              Have any Alpha issues popped up that you can't answer?
              If you converted from a5v4.5, were there things that worked in a5v4.5 that don't in a5v5?

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