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    Database not showing the program as Alpha Five.

    I have been designing a small database for a client.

    When I give him the database I do not want him to know that it is a Alpha Five product.I would also like it to run from an exe.file.

    How do you perform these functions?

    Thanks

    #2
    RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

    You need A5v5 Runtime.

    kenn
    TYVM :) kenn

    Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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      #3
      RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

      Although it still won't be an .exe. (like VB) He'll start the runtime .exe with an argument of the .adb

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        #4
        RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

        First of all no matter what version you use your client will always know that Alpha is in the back round, they can see the alpha files in windows explorer, or when your application kicks an error (which will happen once in a while even for the best programmer) an alpha error message will pop up, etc.
        But why in world are we trying to hide the language we use? What�s wrong with our clients knowing we use Alpha to write our applications? Are we trying to tell our clients we wrote the application using our own language (I would not buy an application that was written by a single person with nobody backing him up)
        I think we should take pride of letting our clients know we use alpha to write our applications! After all there is nothing to be ashamed of, Alpha Five v5 is an excellent product

        Daniel Weiss
        Daniel Weiss
        EZ Link Software

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          #5
          RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

          Daniel,

          I agree completely with your comments:...

          Are we trying to tell our clients we wrote the application using our own language (I would not buy an application that was written by a single person with nobody backing him up)

          I would suspect that there are many Alpha 5 developers who have picked up clients bacause the client is having problems with an application written by 'someone' using 'some language' who has disappeared into the sunset. I think that allowing our client(s) to know which development platform we used served both of us. It is a form of advertising for me, as the developer, and is a sense of security for the client, in that the client knows that if the situation arises, they can find another Alpha 5 developer to support them.

          Dave
          Dave Jampole
          www.customalpha.com

          Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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            #6
            RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

            I think this argument is normally used to support the use of MicroMush products. I know almost no-one has heard of Alpha Five, still. But since version 5 I see Alpha Software making a move into the public eye. Hey - they still don't have the budget to compete (I have a feeling it's coming as they have finally priced themselves right), and have a product that will compete absolutely.

            In this regard I think it would be beneficial for us all if we helped by advertising the fact we use Alpha Five. And as relatively easy as it is, creating applications in Alpha Five is still a very time consuming process and one I do NOT reccomend small business owners spend too much time on. I did, and it cost me a lot. Today I would reccomend finding an Alpha Five developer to do the coding and etc. As the business owner I like the fact that I can get "under the hood" but there are so mny more valuable things that I ought to be doing.

            Use Alpha Five and tell your clients this fact. In a year or two you will be seen as a really sharp guy who latched onto a well known platform before it was well known...

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              #7
              RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

              With all due respect, I do not agree with these comments. I definitely do agree that there is no shame in letting clients know that we use Alpha 5 to develop the application. I tell them this all the time, and also make reference to Alpha software in the manuals and help screens. However, I do not agree that this should mean that Alpha's name needs to be on the backup dialog screen for example, or on the error message screens. In any professional product that I have seen, the developer definitely credits the developer of the programming language, but all message boxes within the app do NOT reference the language developer, they mention the application name.

              I strongly believe that there should be a way to globally change all references to Alpha 5 to any name we want, and then a legal requirement to credit Alpha software in our documentation. Gives a much more polished, professional look in my opinion, while giving appropriate credit to Alpha Software.

              Gary Traub
              Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                #8
                RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                Martin,

                My users start the app by clicking on a shortcut to the ADB file which sits on their desktop.

                I let the Alpha Five splash screen appear, but it could be suppressed or replaced if you wish.

                After Alpha Five loads, I have a startup form that autoloads.

                I show all forms in maximized mode, and I use xbasic scripting commands to set the Window title on all forms displayed during the session.

                As a result Alpha Five's presence in the background is noted, but isn't present on each screen while the app is running.

                I'm not claiming this is perfect, or that this couldn't be handled with more finesse, but it's been working just fine, so I thought I'd mention it.

                -- tom

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                  #9
                  RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                  For example:

                  In a phone number field, if the user mistakenly types a letter instead of a number, the message box appears titled "Alpha Five" and the message is "The mask expects a number". In a competitive product, if the user attempts to enter a character into the phone field, nothing happens i.e., the user is prevented from making a mistake. They do not see a message that says the programming language's name. Thus, I would think that either there should be a way to do this in Alpha 5 or there should be a way to completely control the error message box.

                  Gary
                  Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                    #10
                    RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                    Gary,

                    I guess this is a tradeoff you make when you elect to use the built in field validation rules. If you do your own custom validation, you have complete control over the appearance of dialog boxes you choose to present if a non-qualifying entry is made by the user. So, in a very real sense, you can have complete control over the error message box by 'rolling your own'.

                    -- tom

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                      #11
                      RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                      FWIW, I just completed a small app for use in my financial investigations and sent it to 2 investigators for beta testing. Read the fine print at the bottom.

                      kenn
                      TYVM :) kenn

                      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                        #12
                        RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                        Ken:

                        I really like the screen setup. Good luck with this!

                        Gary
                        Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                          #13
                          RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                          Hi Tom:

                          Is there a way to have a mask in a field (e.g., phone), and have my own error message box?? If there is, that would be great.

                          Gary
                          Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                            #14
                            RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                            Gary,

                            I just looked at this. There is a

                            dial(c phonenumber)

                            command. This calls up the windows utility. So if you are willing to script your own you can create your own mask and error messages, I think.

                            Get user input
                            test it for format and provide custom error messages etc .
                            pass it to a variable (vPhonenumber)

                            and only then write
                            dial(vPhonenumber)

                            Bill
                            Bill Hanigsberg

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                              #15
                              RE: Database not showing the program as Alpha Five

                              Hi Bill:

                              I am not understanding this. Do you mean that you can test the string for the "-" in the phone number?

                              Gary
                              Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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