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    2nd Time, same question on refresh

    Msg ID: 12105
    Subject: Shadow refresh bug?
    Author: Jim Belanger
    Date: 11-23-2002 11:35 AM
    File:

    When a network user refreshes his/her shadow database, the control panel comes up with no names anywhere. You need to click on a tab that is not highlighted to make the names of forms, table, reports, etc appear. Then you can go back to the highlighted tab to see your choices. Is this normal?
    Jim Belanger

    #2
    RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

    I don't know if it is "normal" but mine does the same thing.

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      #3
      RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

      FWIW, I no longer use Refresh, because of some odd behavior such as this. I've also found that sometimes the Refresh doesn't work as it should.

      I always use the full Optimize with my customers. Sure, it takes a little longer, but then they don't have to decide which to use (Refresh will not work if you restructure a table, and also in some other cases). Also, Optimize seems to be more consistent in its performance.

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        #4
        RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

        Bill,

        I thought refresh in ver. 5 is the same as optimize? I use refresh (via xbasic) for weekly updates w/o any gliches whatsoever - incl. new tables & sets being properly added.

        Am i missing something?

        Peter
        Peter
        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

        [email protected]
        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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          #5
          RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

          Peter,

          You are not missing anything. Selwyn has advised, that in V5, refresh is the same as network optimize. I think this change was made because of the problems with refresh in V4.x

          Jerry

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            #6
            RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

            Thanks Jerry, Peter and Bill. When you say optimize, I assume you mean rebuilding the shadow again. That means the users have to sign onto the master database in the server. This teaches them to access that master and possibly opens up the option of them making changes there. Unless I missed what Optimize means, I am not sure I want to do that.

            All of this dialog has not shed any light on the fact that, after a shadow refresh, the titles of the forms and tables/sets is not visible in the control panel unless you click on another tab and then back to the one you were on before the refresh.

            Take care. I guess it isn't a BIG DEAL just a glitch I see.
            Jim Belanger

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              #7
              RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

              When you say optimize, I assume you mean rebuilding the shadow again. That means the users have to sign onto the master database in the server. This teaches them to access that master and possibly opens up the option of them making changes there. Unless I missed what Optimize means, I am not sure I want to do that.

              Alpha gives you an easy way to update the shadow, by allowing you to assign a version no on the source adb file. Then the user's shadow will update automatically whenever the ver. no. of your app. changes.

              As far as the c_panel goes, i suppose that is a minor repaint issue.
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

              [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                #8
                RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                Jim

                If you are working from a terminal (a network optimized terminal), you will have a refresh shadow option, which is all you need for the user. It does the same as the initial network optimize without the user needing to access the server directly. As Peter points out, you can set up the network update options on the server to force the user to automatically refresh the shadow. Once this is active, the user does nothing, the action gives a message and runs without intervention.

                As for the control panel being blank, most developers don't allow a remote user access to the control panel anyway, so it is not a big issue. The most common approach is to create a menu system to force the user to go where you want. In effect, your own control panel.

                Jerry

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                  #9
                  RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                  I do use that version number. The update is not automatic but nearly so. The user has to click YES when they get the warning message that their version is not the newest.
                  Jim Belanger

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                    #10
                    RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                    "Alpha gives you an easy way to update the shadow, by allowing you to assign a version no on the source adb file. Then the user's shadow will update automatically whenever the ver. no. of your app. changes."

                    Would somebody be so kind to explain how to do this.

                    Ron
                    Alpha 5 Version 11
                    AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
                    DBF's and MySql
                    Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

                    Ron Anusiewicz

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                      #11
                      RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                      Hello All,

                      Just a shot in the dark, which is my normal habitat.
                      Do any of you have 'nodbcheck' set ?
                      This prevents Alpha from continually checking and updating the *.adb

                      Jim

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                        #12
                        RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                        Jim

                        My understanding is that the runtime has the nodbcheck option always set off. There was a message from Cian some time ago about removing it in the runtime as there was no real reason to keep checking for tables added etc, since you can't normally do that in the runtime.

                        Jerry

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                          #13
                          RE: 2nd Time, same question on refresh

                          Hi Jerry

                          Actually the runtime does not currently set nodbcheck for you automatically. You can verify this by launching the runtime and then looking at your CPU utilization.

                          -Lenny

                          Lenny Forziati
                          Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                          Alpha Software Corporation

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