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    #1

    Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

    I am curious to know if V6 will continue to be patched?
    In July there were 4 patches in the space of 11 days (july 1 -11). Since then there have been no official patches. I assume due to more concentration on V7.

    I personally think that V6 and V7 should have been merged or integrated as the one version or a V6.Something. From an outsider looking in, I think there has not been enough "overall" major developments to warrant a full version edition.

    I also beleive that rather than bundle the entire Alpha Application Development Software under the one umbrella, I would have preferred to see it branch off with different "Editions" with support, patches and updates accordingly. For example "Desktop V6", "Web Edition V6, Client/Server V6"
    This does not mean you have to bring out new versions of each edition at the same time. You could have "D V6", "WE V9" and "C/S V7.5". By keeping the development/application platforms seperate, developers can choose what is best for their needs by concentrating on their immediate area without being sidetracked into thinking a new version is due for release. This may not entirely benefit them.

    Under this scenario you would also bring out a developers edition and Runtime / Server Edition for each version of Desktop/Web/Client-Server Edition. You would market the Developers edition to Developers/Progarmmers (of course) at an extremely competitive bargain price (if not free - other companies are doing it), however this edition can only operate in Localhost / single computer mode - This could introduce and create a "mass" developers community. Then you market the Runtime / Server Editions to organisations and business minded developers wanting to utilise the skills of the "mass" developers. The R / S Editions should be at a premium (but not overrated) price. For example Web Server Edition maybe priced at $3000. There would be plenty of "Web-hosting" companies prepared to pay $3000 if they knew there were millions of developers needing a place to "host" their applications.

    I think I have gone off topic, so I better stop and revist the topic.

    Are there no more bugs in V6 ??
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    #2
    RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

    Yes, there are bugs (or problems, as the case may be), some of which I was told would be addressed in a patch that has not yet appeared. I certainly hope this is true.

    Ray

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      #3
      RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

      The only bug free program is vaporware. If you search the forum since the last patch, you will see a number of posts from Alpha about system file updates that were not "official" patches.

      Jerry

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        #4
        RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

        My topic was more tongue-in-cheek, Even vaporware has bugs known as "super bugs". Nothing is perfect, if it is the person / company / group / society / etc evaluating the "perfect" thing is not competent enough to give credible evaluation or review.

        I was just wondering what Alpha's stance will be as V7 is in beta and I am hoping V6 will still be supported with patches. As you know V5 and below are not.

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          #5
          RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

          Version 7 did not have much to offer the desktop people thats for sure. However, I do not like your idea of having seperate editions for desktop, web and c/s.

          I would like to see different runtimes available. I would like to have a runtime edition that did not incorporate everything that the current runtime does. I know they took out the ability to edit/create apps, but the applications I create never give the user access to the control panel or the default menus. The only things I want a user to have access to is what I put in there. If the user is not going to have access to the control panel and any of the default menu items would it not be possible to shrink it even more making it smaller and faster to load or is all of that stuff still needed? Does this make sense or am I rambling ?

          Also, instead of having to create a link with all of the parameters as we do now, it would be nice to have the ability to create a small exe that would contain any startup info/build info that was needed to launch the application. This would be a little more professional looking, at least to me, to have an exe file with the name of the app attached to it such as Quotes.exe. Plus it would make it a lot easier when a user calls me and says that have deleted the link, whats the name of the exe they need to double click to start the app.


          Just some thoughts,
          Jason

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            #6
            RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

            Well, if not being able to access the control panel at all were envisioned, it should be optional to the developer.

            As for a small exe for startup, I agree, though I wonder how that might affect Network Optimize. In any case, if you search the v5 forum (or maybe the v4) I think you'll find that someone posted way to do this by using some other, probably free, program that allowed for all kinds of things. I need to go to bed now or I'd do the search myself.

            Ray

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              #7
              RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

              I cracked up when I read the title of your post. For the record, Selwyn said at last May's A5 conference, that once v7 came out, there would be no more patches for v6. Sink or swim!
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

               [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                Does this make sense or am I rambling ?

                It makes great sense! If only...

                Also, instead of having to create a link with all of the parameters as we do now, it would be nice to have the ability to create a small exe that would contain any startup info/build info that was needed to launch the application. This would be a little more professional looking, at least to me, to have an exe file with the name of the app attached to it such as Quotes.exe.

                Just some thoughts,

                Excellent thoughts at that!

                I think the latter is very doable, if Alpha has the interest. I know that Alpha was never designed with the idea of creating a compiled exe runtime. But a startup exe that loads a specific app would be a great feature!

                Peter
                Peter
                AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                 [email protected]
                https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                  #9
                  RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                  Jason,

                  I took the liberty of posting your idea on the Wish List forum.

                  Peter
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                   [email protected]
                  https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                    #10
                    RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                    The existing alternative I mentioned above is Multimedia Builder, This and much more is discussed at:

                    http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/alphaphorum/read.php3?sortby=lastreply&direction=desc&num=11&id=49789&thread=49001#MSG49781

                    It is a shareware program ($45 or $60 if you want an MP3 license). Of course its main purpose is multimedia stuff one might want presented at the start of a program (very fancy splash screens, etc.). But as I remember from my testing (could be mis-remembering!) with this program you can do anything you want with A5 startup parameters, all through an .exe file wit or without any multimedia stuff. As indicated in the discussion, there are probably lots of other alternative as well.

                    Still, the idea of a .exe option as an A5 feature is a great idea.

                    Ray

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                      #11
                      RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                      It would be nice if it were a built-in genie.
                      Peter
                      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                       [email protected]
                      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                        #12
                        RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                        Well thanks. I appreciate you also posting that in the wish list forum.

                        Thanks again
                        Jason

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                          #13
                          RE: Are there no more bugs in V6 ?

                          Thanks Raymond, I will check out that thread.

                          Jason

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