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    #1

    Desktop to Web conversion

    To what extent will a desktop DB written using A5 convert to the Web using the WAS. Do the forms translate?

    Many thanks
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    RE: Desktop to Web conversion


    An application created for the desktop is created with xBasic (and xDialog) code...Alpha's programming languages.

    Anything viewed with a browser, through the Internet, is written in a combination of codes(ASP, Perl, Java may sound familiar to you), but the most prevalent and accepted one is HTML.

    Our v6 software will assist you in creating interactive data for the web, by incorporating the xBasic/xDialog pieces within an HTML "shell".

    The Forms, Reports, Browses etc that you created for the desktop will not make the transition to the Internet (i.e. to the v6 web application) as standard browsers don't know how to speak "xBasic or xDialog".) In the desktop development environment an Alpha Genie can assist in creating the "pull down" menu (writing the code on the back side for you) The Internet engine just hears "blah, blah, blah, and does not know that the code presented are the instructions for displaying a pull-down menu.

    The "interfaces" as I refer to them (windows to your data, and how you'd like the end user to view and interact with the data) need to be RE-CREATED with the v6 tools, so that the HTML commands that create a "box", "pull-down" menu or query function are created in a language the browser arena can understand.

    Your desktop applications and remote applications (Web) can access the same data files, as your data does make the transition.

    Alpha's Learning Center(tab) on our main web page, is another place to review what needs to take place to convert a desktop application to a web-enabled one.

    Here are some places to start (note: URLS will wrap):

    http://support.alphasoftware.com/alphafivehelp/Web_Publishing/Web_Application_Server_Overview.htm

    http://support.alphasoftware.com/alphafivehelp/Web_Publishing/Web_Publishing.htm

    http://support.alphasoftware.com/alphafivehelp/Web_Publishing/Building_Alpha_Five_Web_Pages.htm


    -Jeannette Cook
    Alpha Software Customer Service
    [email protected]

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      #3
      RE: Desktop to Web conversion

      OK, thanks. That makes sense to me. SO the Database survives the trip, but I need to receate the forms and reports.

      I can do that. Thanks again.

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        #4
        RE: Desktop to Web conversion

        Existing reports can be used in the Web Application Server. Forms cannot.

        -Lenny

        Lenny Forziati
        Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
        Alpha Software Corporation

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          #5
          RE: Desktop to Web conversion

          To follow up on this, can ASP be used to access the database, or must XBasic be employed? I am familiar with VBScript/ASP and am wondering if I will be required to learn XBasic additionally.

          Cheers -

          george

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            #6
            RE: Desktop to Web conversion

            Lenny, thanks. Do you all have relationships or know of any Web hosts that support the Web application server?

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              #7
              RE: Desktop to Web conversion

              It is my understanding that the Web Application Server can automate code building with a click and point interface...or you can write Xbasic from scratch.

              But to answer your question, I am not sure if you can connect to an A5 database using VBScript/ASP.

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                RE: Desktop to Web conversion

                Page -

                Automation can oftentimes get one most of the way there, but there are always the little things that one needs to add. I can always learn yet another language, but it would be a real advantage if I could get things started running.

                Cheers -

                george

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                  #9
                  RE: Desktop to Web conversion

                  You cannot use VBScript/ASP, the Web Application Sever relies on Xbasic. However you may not need to write any code at all, the Web Components are very powerful and do not require writing code.

                  -Lenny

                  Lenny Forziati
                  Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                  Alpha Software Corporation

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                    #10
                    RE: Desktop to Web conversion

                    Lenny -

                    Okay, I was afraid of that.

                    Thanks for the reply.

                    Cheers -

                    george

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