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    Pricing

    I have an app which I sell. My users do not have Alpha5 so part of my app is a runtime vesion of Alpha5.

    A few clients have asked for the ability to "access" their data on their FS via the Net. Examples: salesman on the road to look up PO's or teachers/profs to enter a NEW repair work order request.

    What would I have to purchase from Alpha5 to do this? I have already upgraded from version5.0 to 6.0 Development.

    What would EACH client have to buy if they want to use the NET capability that I will be programming in, in the near future? So that they can upgrade their data within their own building/factory.

    I find the price structure confusing and maybe someone will give me a more clear idea of what I need to purchase and what a client might need to buy.

    Big thanks.

    #2
    RE: Pricing

    If you want to continue to privide a desktop app to your customers, you will need the runtime, just like you do in V5.

    If you would like to additionally provide web access, each customer's file server that is to also become a web server must have an unlimited Web Application Server license.

    -Lenny

    Lenny Forziati
    Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
    Alpha Software Corporation

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      #3
      RE: Pricing

      So each of my clients who wud like to take advantage of Web data entry would need to buy the Web Server unlimited from Alpha 5 directly.

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        #4
        RE: Pricing

        They would need to buy it and ultimately it would have to come from us. But that doesn't mean you couldn't act as a reseller or roll the license fee into your project price.

        -Lenny

        Lenny Forziati
        Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
        Alpha Software Corporation

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          #5
          RE: Pricing

          Hi Lenny,

          So that strategy ends the possibilities of us developers to deliver solutions totaly independend of Alpha Software.

          Our customer needs to purchase a license for the WAS from you.

          I do not think that is a wise solution at all.

          First of all my customers are not even aware of Alpha being used for their product. In my opinion, they don't need to be either.
          I future, for web applications, every customer MUST order the WAS from you.

          It does not only limits our possibilities, it also raises the price of any web solution we might deliver with $699 per license! So goodbye to any low-priced websolution involved software !

          I think the WAS should be implemented into the license structure just like the Runtime.

          Why did you choose this unholy idea ?

          Greetings,

          Marcel

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            #6
            RE: Pricing

            Hi,

            I think there may be some confusion over this. Let me state what I believe is the way the License issue works and if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.

            I am a developer. I get Client A. I write a web app for him, purchase a web server license. Now Client A's web site is up for all the world to access.

            Then along comes Client B. I write an app for Client B, and will need a new web server license for for his app. Then Client B's web site is up for all of the world to visit.

            If I get Client C then again I would need to obtain another web license.

            That's my interpretation of the license.

            Thanks,

            Dan
            Dan

            Dan Blank builds Databases
            Skype: danblank

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              #7
              RE: Pricing

              Marcel, as I mentioned above, you can become a reseller and your customer would notneed to buy directly from us. There is also the option of their app being hosted at an ISP or other provider, in which case their server does not need a license.

              -Lenny

              Lenny Forziati
              Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
              Alpha Software Corporation

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                #8
                RE: Pricing

                Hi Lenny,

                Swift reaction, thanks !

                Well, that might be true, but the license agreement is between Alpha and my client, so I would at least have to inform my client about that. Why does my client have to be involved in this ?

                Furthermore, when I want to create a product designed for the greater public to use with webfunctionality, and I would like to sell it for let us say $49 I would have to add $699 to the pricetab........

                Question remains: why did you not choose for the solution similar to the Runtime (which works great!) ?

                Don't you see it limits our possibilities thus your sales chances ?

                Or do I not see it clearly ?

                Regards,

                Marcel

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                  #9
                  RE: Pricing

                  Dan,

                  I think you are wrong.
                  It is not you who needs to buy the WAS license, but your client.

                  Although it can be done through you as a reseller, it will still be your client who has a licenseagreement with Alpha as I understand it.

                  The license for the WAS will be on your clients name and not on your name.

                  Kind regards,

                  Marcel

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                    #10
                    RE: Pricing

                    We don't care who buys the license. You just need to have one for the server you are hosting from.

                    Lenny Forziati
                    Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                    Alpha Software Corporation

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                      #11
                      RE: Pricing

                      Marcel, if you choose to build a $49 web app in Cold Fusion, what does your client need?

                      Lenny Forziati
                      Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                      Alpha Software Corporation

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                        #12
                        RE: Pricing

                        Marcell,

                        Whether we like it or not, atleast it is spelled out and it is up to us whether we choose to use it.

                        There, I did not insert a negative!!! Thoughts don't count.

                        Dave
                        Dave Mason
                        [email protected]
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #13
                          RE: Pricing

                          Lenny,

                          I did not see it that way.

                          I just compared it with the structure we have now, and find this a disturbing change in things.

                          You will be right, but it does not change the pricetab for my client, neither the fact that my client would have to be involved in the license structure with Alpha, which is not an optimal situation either.

                          Pitty.

                          Regards,

                          Marcel

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                            #14
                            RE: Pricing

                            Lenny,

                            That is a little indifferent and incorrect as well, as there are legal issues involved here regarding license agreements rights and obligations.

                            Kind regards,

                            Marcel

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                              #15
                              RE: Pricing

                              Hi Lenny,

                              One thing I am not too clear on is different apps on the same server. If I write one app and put it on a server, then write another app for the same server...Will I need to get another license?

                              Just thinking this may be a partial solution where developers can also expand into web hosting partnerships.

                              Thanks,

                              Dan
                              Dan

                              Dan Blank builds Databases
                              Skype: danblank

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