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Who have compared AlphaFive to WinDev ? O/T

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    #16
    Hi Neal,

    I think this threads name has to be changed to "Magic Versus Alpha" :)

    I am too new to Alpha to give you an intelligent answer to your questions, but I don't think they are alike. I stayed with Magic thru V5.6 but also dropped out when the pricing got too high. I am not a professional programmer by trade, but I knew many "Magicians" who left because of their pricing structure.

    I will be studying Alpha alot in the next month (before the trial expires) hopefully I'll get a better understaning of it.

    Barry

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      #17
      Originally posted by Kevin G. Timberlake
      ...FMA has a simple export with the options allowed to be determined by the end user, and a simple "one click button" for the importing of any data with the end user determining the parameters. ...
      ...
      I'm not a fan of FileMaker Pro. But I must agree with Kevin. The imports and Exports are more simple than A5. This weekend I imported some simple data and it comes very secure what to tell A5 to do. FM just imports the data and taadaa. ..... But when it comes to flexibility A5 wins.

      However. the comparison is not quite fair. FM has a complete different structure and field construction and is quite more a 4th generation application. FM (in my case version 5.5/6.0) has only memo fields as text fields. So throw a bunch of characters into a memo container and you are up and running.

      I go for flexibility and stick to A5....and still I'm not a fan of FM and never will be.

      About, WINDEV: You are comparing an Airbus A380 againt a Jumbo Jet 747.

      Regards,

      Marcel Kollenaar
      Last edited by Marcel Kollenaar; 01-05-2006, 06:33 PM.
      Marcel

      I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
      ---- Confusius ----

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        #18
        Hey Barry,

        Get it while you can! Alpha Five is the best of Magic and Visual Basic combined. I know Basic, but still, 98% of everything I do requires no coding. If you thought Magic had a LOT of menu's, wait until you see A5! It's all a matter of picking choices off of menu's.

        Gads! If you can still get a full license for $99, grab it. Actually... even at $350, it's still a bargain. Pickup up the runtime too, if it's still being offered at a discount. Really! If you have any ambition of earning a living as an independent developer, this is the only way to go!

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          #19
          I have been using Alpha for about a month and have just jumped in boots and all and tried to make it work for me: and I think I am succeeding! I haven't needed to write any code as such, the code editor has done it for me.

          One of the contributing factors is this bulletin board and all the helpful people. And the Alpha staff themselves: I just cannot imagine the Gates Gang doing anything like this.

          At the present prices you just cannot go wrong!

          Kia ora

          Robin (at 71)

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            #20
            Hello Kevin,
            Unless a "specific" script for the operation is made and then the end user cannot pick the file from the harddrive, but is required to have pre-ordained locations, import card made up in advance of the distribution, and specifically named.
            Don't know what you have gone through and what other have worked with you on and I have never worked with FileMaker, but I disagree with the above statement. Your runtime users are not locked into a specific file location or name. Now if you are talking about importing different structures and being able to determine and import varying fields and types on the fly, then this would take a some code to do this.

            Good luck,
            Jim

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              #21
              Originally posted by Marcel Kollenaar
              About, WINDEV: You are comparing an Airbus A380 againt a Jumbo Jet 747.
              Ok, Marcel. You lost me on that analogy. Care to elaborate?
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

              [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                #22
                Originally posted by Peter G.
                Ok, Marcel. You lost me on that analogy. Care to elaborate?
                It is just my way to say that WINDEV is a bloaded software package with a lot of bells and whistles (Airbus A380).

                Saw on Discovery some documentaries about the Airbus A380 and Boeing 747. Both great airplanes, but there is a substantial difference between them as do between Windev and Alpha Five.

                Windev has a data model editor, RAD, Version management, Link with third-party languages, RS -232 serial link, Multilingual ....and a lot of stuff more that you get after paying � 1650,-

                Yes, maybe the analogy isn't a best example if you haven't seen the documentary.

                Ok, I don't use the airplane metafore the next time. I don't want anybody lost on the topics ;)

                Regards,

                Marcel
                Marcel

                I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
                ---- Confusius ----

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Marcel Kollenaar

                  Yes, maybe the analogy isn't a best example if you haven't seen the documentary.

                  Ok, I don't use the airplane metafore the next time. I don't want anybody lost on the topics
                  Yeah, I was familiar with the 747, but I was googling Airbus to see what the diff. might be. But it didn't jump out at me. So you're telling me not to fly Airbus becuase it's so loaded with junk, it just might crash? Hhhmmm...
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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                  https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                    #24
                    Go ahead fly it..

                    Originally posted by Peter G.
                    Yeah, I was familiar with the 747, but I was googling Airbus to see what the diff. might be. But it didn't jump out at me. So you're telling me not to fly Airbus becuase it's so loaded with junk, it just might crash? Hhhmmm...
                    Oh, no just fly the plane if you want, nothing wrong with it and I didn't say it was loaded with junk. It is even controlled by Green Hills Software�s INTEGRITY-178B Operating System for Engine Monitoring and Navigation Systems. Thank God it is not Windows .

                    I'm just telling that there are a lot of differences between the airplanes as do between Windev and Alpha Five. I liked the analogy, the size, the enormous adding of high tech stuff. And Sir Richard Bransom wants to add bubble baths to the planes he's buying, it isn't that bloaded...:D

                    And see Alpha Five, just right (imho), not bloaded only the things you need are present. A lot of people can drive it, yes there are complains but they get their jobs done.

                    Marcel
                    Marcel

                    I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
                    ---- Confusius ----

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                      #25
                      So maybe we can get Alpha to rewrite their code to run on Green Hills Software�s INTEGRITY-178B Operating System. And while they're at it, they can throw in a bubble_baths() function.
                      Peter
                      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                      [email protected]
                      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Peter G.
                        So maybe we can get Alpha to rewrite their code to run on Green Hills Software�s INTEGRITY-178B Operating System. And while they're at it, they can throw in a bubble_baths() function.

                        LOL

                        .
                        Marcel

                        I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
                        ---- Confusius ----

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