Alpha Video Training
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: WAS does not run as a Windows Service

  1. #1
    Volunteer Moderator Steve Wood's Avatar
    Real Name
    Steve Wood
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Bay Area, California
    Posts
    8,842

    Default WAS does not run as a Windows Service

    The WAS is not running as a Windows Service. A service normally appears in the Services and Applications section of Manage Computer. This means if my server reboots (which it does) that Alpha WAS will not load until I go and manually log in. WAS is in the Startup directory, so it will load when I log in, but that means I have to physically log in. I can't omit login requirements for security reasons.

    Considering the above, does anyone know if it is possible to cause WAS to auto load on reboot? I know I cannot add WAS as a service, that requires programming at the code level.
    Steve Wood
    Join the ALPHA DEVELOPERS NETWORK
    There is no Cloud. It's just someone else's computer.
    Web - Mobile - Hosting - Products - Frameworks - Developer Resources
    AlphaToGo | IADN (100% Alpha Anywhere Websites)

  2. #2
    Former Alpha Employee JerryBrightbill's Avatar
    Real Name
    Jerry Brightbill
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Posts
    5,172

    Default

    This topic has been covered a number of times. You can get a full description at Automatically Restarting the Web Application Server

  3. #3
    Volunteer Moderator Steve Wood's Avatar
    Real Name
    Steve Wood
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Bay Area, California
    Posts
    8,842

    Default

    Jerry,

    Yes, I know about that. But it requires you to let the computer automatically log on. As I said, I can't do that for security reasons. I guess I could establish a minimal user logon, but I even hate that idea. I think no one should allow their server, or any company computer, to automatically log on. I'll do it for now if I have to, but a program like WAS should run as a true Windows service.

    -- But I bet I can't even do it on a Windows 2003 Server. I'll try, but there are some mandatory notes that the server demands if it reboots unplanned. You can't log in until you satisfy that request.

    HTML Code:
    You have to allow Windows to start up without a user logon
    Steve Wood
    Join the ALPHA DEVELOPERS NETWORK
    There is no Cloud. It's just someone else's computer.
    Web - Mobile - Hosting - Products - Frameworks - Developer Resources
    AlphaToGo | IADN (100% Alpha Anywhere Websites)

  4. #4
    Alpha Software Employee AaronBBrown's Avatar
    Real Name
    Aaron Brown
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Waltham, MA
    Posts
    2,836

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Wood
    I'll do it for now if I have to, but a program like WAS should run as a true Windows service.
    You're right and it will in the future...just not yet.
    [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1][COLOR=Blue]Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

  5. #5
    Volunteer Moderator Steve Wood's Avatar
    Real Name
    Steve Wood
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Bay Area, California
    Posts
    8,842

    Default

    Thanks - may be a good time for me to advocate for a shared bug base?

    The logon issue came up when I tried to access my WAS this morning, at 4AM. It was down because the server rebooted apparently from a failed backup attempt (breaking in new Veritas software). I had to access remotely and start Alpha.

    I'm about to go live with phase II which has to be up 24x7. What I probably should do is purchase a new server just for the purpose of running the WAS, put the database on a different server, and allow the WAS server to log on automatically.
    Steve Wood
    Join the ALPHA DEVELOPERS NETWORK
    There is no Cloud. It's just someone else's computer.
    Web - Mobile - Hosting - Products - Frameworks - Developer Resources
    AlphaToGo | IADN (100% Alpha Anywhere Websites)

  6. #6
    Alpha Software Employee AaronBBrown's Avatar
    Real Name
    Aaron Brown
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Waltham, MA
    Posts
    2,836

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Wood
    Thanks - may be a good time for me to advocate for a shared bug base?
    If you mean something like bugzilla, I'm working on setting something up.
    [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1][COLOR=Blue]Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

  7. #7
    Volunteer Moderator Steve Wood's Avatar
    Real Name
    Steve Wood
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Bay Area, California
    Posts
    8,842

    Default

    One of the advantages is that you would not get bombarded with bug reports (if I am typical) if I knew something was either on the list, or PAD. Its always a wag when I report something - not sure if I am doing something useful, or wasting your developer time.
    Steve Wood
    Join the ALPHA DEVELOPERS NETWORK
    There is no Cloud. It's just someone else's computer.
    Web - Mobile - Hosting - Products - Frameworks - Developer Resources
    AlphaToGo | IADN (100% Alpha Anywhere Websites)

  8. #8
    Alpha Software Employee AaronBBrown's Avatar
    Real Name
    Aaron Brown
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Waltham, MA
    Posts
    2,836

    Default

    Like I said, we're working on it :)
    [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1][COLOR=Blue]Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

  9. #9
    Member neil_albala's Avatar
    Real Name
    neil_albala
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Kitsap Peninsula (near Seattle)
    Posts
    126

    Default Beta Testers...

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronBBrown
    If you mean something like bugzilla, I'm working on setting something up.
    Aaron,

    The name Bugzilla rhymes with the monster Godzilla and has negative connotations. I may have a better idea.

    Personally, what bug reports I have sent in via email, have all gone unanswered. I cringe every time I have to post a bug-report disguised as question on this forum, because aside from the obvious support this forum offers, it is also an important public relations vehicle, and I NEVER want to say anything that would discourage new users.

    I suggest you set up a NEW forum category called Beta Testers. Maybe you can make this group private; by invitation only. In this way only those who are technically adept at tracing bugs and providing working examples will be permitted to participate.

    As long as you allow this Beta Testers to be one build ahead of the distribution build then the name rings true, and all those nasty debugging issues can be kept out of this general forum.

  10. #10
    Alpha Software Employee AaronBBrown's Avatar
    Real Name
    Aaron Brown
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Waltham, MA
    Posts
    2,836

    Default

    Bugzilla is a bug reporting software already out in the public which we have used internally in the past. Adding "-zilla" to the end of names is a convention in the open source community, hence Mozilla, Bugzilla, Filezilla, and a plethora of other products.
    [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1][COLOR=Blue]Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

  11. #11
    Member neil_albala's Avatar
    Real Name
    neil_albala
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Kitsap Peninsula (near Seattle)
    Posts
    126

    Default

    Thanks for the link Aaron. That makes more sense.

    Are there any beta-testers? Or is all beta-testing done internally?

  12. #12
    Alpha Software Employee AaronBBrown's Avatar
    Real Name
    Aaron Brown
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Waltham, MA
    Posts
    2,836

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by neil_albala
    Thanks for the link Aaron. That makes more sense.

    Are there any beta-testers? Or is all beta-testing done internally?
    We do have a beta testing period prior to each release. If you'd like to get added to the list, send Selwyn an email.
    [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1][COLOR=Blue]Aaron Brown
    Alpha Software Development Team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

  13. #13
    Volunteer Moderator Peter.Greulich's Avatar
    Real Name
    Peter Greulich
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    11,644

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by neil_albala
    The name Bugzilla rhymes with the monster Godzilla and has negative connotations.
    The name Bugzilla rhymes with the monster Godzilla and has positive connotations.

    Godzilla kick-ass monster way cool, Man!
    Last edited by Peter.Greulich; 01-10-2006 at 03:32 PM.

Similar Threads

  1. making was a service
    By Ian_Edwards in forum Web Application Server v6
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-25-2005, 08:45 AM
  2. Windows Run command
    By George Corder in forum Alpha Five Version 5
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-30-2004, 04:00 PM
  3. Service Pack
    By Sharon Bracken in forum Alpha Five Version 5
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-13-2002, 10:31 AM
  4. Help Pls which alpha program to run on windows xp
    By Mark Cobb in forum Alpha Five Versions 2 and 3
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-25-2002, 04:07 PM
  5. Alpha4 Version 6 won't run in Windows 2000 Prof.
    By tlski in forum Alpha Four Version 6 and Prior
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-28-2000, 01:39 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •