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    #1

    Version 8 features?

    Does anyone know (or be willing to share) what features are planned for version 8? I've heard wind that there will be more internet goodies, but that's just rumor.

    Dave Volgas
    David A. Volgas, MD
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    #2
    Re: Version 8 features?

    The only features that I know about, are on the web side. That's not to say there won't be desktop stuff, it's just that I don't know much. But at the A5 conference on the web side we were shown:
    • new login component
    • AJAX for components (but not for grids - at least not yet)
    • web "forms" - as verses grids and components
    • web speed improvements
    Selwyn did show a new look for the desktop, based upon MS-Office 2007(?), which, although cosmetic, was really cool.

    That's about all I know, but I'm really looking forward to it in any case (and I just switched my office to v7)!
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

     [email protected]
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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      #3
      Re: Version 8 features?

      Peter, by web forms, do you mean that we can use a desktop form and host that on the web?

      Bill Belanger

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        #4
        Re: Version 8 features?

        Originally posted by [email protected]
        Peter, by web forms, do you mean that we can use a desktop form and host that on the web?
        No, unfortunately not. That's why I put "forms" in quotes. HTML forces a completely different structure on the web. Nonetheless, Alpha's new web "forms" are really cool. They allow you to much more easily create pages that resemble desktop forms.
        Peter
        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

         [email protected]
        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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          #5
          Re: Version 8 features?

          Before any rumors really start going, the feature list for v8 is not completely decided yet. When we are ready to announce what's coming, you guys will be the first to know.
          Aaron Brown
          Alpha Software Development Team

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            #6
            Re: Version 8 features?

            Originally posted by AaronBBrown
            Before any rumors really start going, the feature list for v8 is not completely decided yet. When we are ready to announce what's coming, you guys will be the first to know.
            Hi Aaron,
            I have seen post that said Selwyn is going to get ver 8 out before end of summer if it kills him, you still dont have feature list yet with only a couple of months left for Selwyn it looks like it will ???? him.
            Kind Regards,
            Ray Roosa
            Raylin Micro, LLC.

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              #7
              Re: Version 8 features?

              Ray,

              The funny thing is, at the conference, they never actually said that any of the features they showed us would be in v8. So, it's kinda like they're hedging their bets. On the other hand, v8 is going to have enough in it to make people bite. If they come out with a version that neglects the desktop, they better bill it as a web-only upgrade or there are going to be a lot of angry users out there. The fact of the matter is, they didn't show us a single new desktop feature at the conference. That doesn't mean there won't be any, of course. But it is kind of strange...
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

               [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                #8
                Re: Version 8 features?

                I'm just curious -- does anybody have a guess as to what % of Alpha users use it strictly for Desktop development vs. users who also use the Web stuff?

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                  #9
                  Re: Version 8 features?

                  Judging from the posts on this forum, its 3 to 1 in favor of desktop. Judging from my conversations at the conference, I'd say the same. But that is based on ACTIVE projects. If you look at total installed applications I could not guess, but would expect it to be well over 50 to one.
                  Steve Wood
                  See my profile on IADN

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                    #10
                    Re: Version 8 features?

                    This is a reply that was posted on another thread about the subscriptions. So from this reply it would seem version 8 is going to have some goodies for the desktop developers/users as he states it a major upgrade with lots of features for Desktop guys.

                    Jason

                    and I quote

                    "we will be releasing more information about version 8 and the 3 editions

                    - stay tuned -

                    I can say that v8 is a feature rich and major upgrade with a lot of emphasis on DESKTOP features as well as web/browser application building features.
                    __________________
                    Richard Rabins
                    Co Chairman
                    Alpha Software"

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                      #11
                      Re: Version 8 features?

                      Originally posted by Rayr
                      Hi Aaron,
                      I have seen post that said Selwyn is going to get ver 8 out before end of summer if it kills him, you still dont have feature list yet with only a couple of months left for Selwyn it looks like it will ???? him.
                      When we are ready to release information about version 8, we will release it. Until that point, we cannot confirm or deny whether or not specific features will be in the product.
                      Aaron Brown
                      Alpha Software Development Team

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                        #12
                        Re: Version 8 features?

                        Originally posted by AaronBBrown
                        When we are ready to release information about version 8, we will release it. Until that point, we cannot confirm or deny whether or not specific features will be in the product.
                        It should be interesting. Very much looking forward to hearing more...
                        Peter
                        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                         [email protected]
                        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                          #13
                          Re: Version 8 features?

                          Originally posted by Peter.Greulich
                          Ray,

                          The funny thing is, at the conference, they never actually said that any of the features they showed us would be in v8. So, it's kinda like they're hedging their bets. On the other hand, v8 is going to have enough in it to make people bite. If they come out with a version that neglects the desktop, they better bill it as a web-only upgrade or there are going to be a lot of angry users out there. The fact of the matter is, they didn't show us a single new desktop feature at the conference. That doesn't mean there won't be any, of course. But it is kind of strange...
                          Peter,
                          I agree with you 100% their are many many users/developers that dont care about the web, they only want desktop applications. I feel they are spending many more HRs on the web stuff ver the desktop stuff. Time will tell, by the way how about a mobil ver of Alpha like FileMaker has?
                          Kind Regards,
                          Ray Roosa
                          Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                            #14
                            Re: Version 8 features?

                            I finally broke down and purchase V7 desktop after going back to using msAscces. I have A5V6, but had gone back to V5 since is ran better and used fewer resources. My biggest gripe is that V7 offered almost nothing for the desktop application developer and it appears that V8 will do the same thing unless they actually re-write the browse control. Alpha should have released the web version as a totally separate application and left the desktop alone until (or should I say if) enough enhancements are added to justify a major release. The desktop purchase was basically just a dentation of funds to Alpha for the ability to get new patches. Judging by the "special" pricing that never ends, sales of V7 must not be that good in spite of the ad saying that the sale pricing stays in effect because of the great success it has had. Supply and demand shoots that theory down.

                            This should be in the wish list, but along with the brows, a better way of handling libraries and code grouping would be a wise move also. Also separating the table from the sets in the database window would be nice.

                            There! I haven't grumbled for a few weeks now so it's out of my system for the time being.

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                              #15
                              Re: Version 8 features?

                              Originally posted by Thontlb
                              • new browse
                              • a better way of handling libraries
                              • code grouping
                              • separating the table from the sets in the database window
                              There! I haven't grumbled for a few weeks now so it's out of my system for the time being.
                              I modified your "quote" slightly :)

                              Good suggestions!
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                               [email protected]
                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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