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    Virtual Host Manager and WAS

    Greetings,

    Has anyone successfully gotten a Windows based, Virtual Domain setup working with WAS?

    I am referring to being able to use seperate registered domain names such as
    www.site1.com and www.site2.com
    as opposed to:
    www.site.com/site1 and www.site.com/site2

    Regards,
    Keith
    Keith Weatherhead
    Discus Data, Ltd
    [email protected]

    #2
    Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

    Its very unlikely. You'd have to use software to build a virtual server with multiple domains on the same computer. I've seen a customer use Plesk (www.plesk.com) to create multiple domains on a Windows 2003 Server, and they host an Alpha WAS application on one of those domains. But its not their intent to run multiple WAS applications.
    Steve Wood
    See my profile on IADN

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      #3
      Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

      Steve,

      I agree, that I will need additional software. I was looking for something along the lines of Plesk (thanx, for the tip as I hadn't found that one), however most of the solutions were on Unix/Linux platforms rather than Windows.

      What I want the Virtual Host Manager (VHM) to do is to translate the incoming URL from www.site1.com to www.site.com/site1 to use with the WAS. I need to have multiple sub-sites and I want to be able to access the top level and several of the sub-levels directly. Do you think Plesk is able of handling this? $200 for 30 domains is acceptable as we only need about 12-15 for this project at the current time. Once it gets going, expanding to additional machines or a specific A5 hosting site would be options that can be explored if needed.

      Thanx,
      Keith
      Keith Weatherhead
      Discus Data, Ltd
      [email protected]

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        #4
        Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

        When I modified my DNS record with NetworkSolutions to have my URL point to my WAS application, I was unable to create something like www.myurl.com = 122.12.12.12\thisapp. I was only allowed to point to the router's IP address, no subfolder. (I'm not an expert in this area). So to point to different apps, I have, as you pointed out, www.myurl.com/app1, www.myurl.com/app2. These are actually just test locations prior to delivery to the customer for hosting elsewhere.

        Searching on "multiple domains on one server" I find lots of articles on the subject. Most are about Apache, but lots on Windows, all using product such as Plesk or Zope. There are also discussions on Microsoft.com regarding using Exchange to create multiple virtual domains, but MS knowledge base articles always leave me more confused.
        Steve Wood
        See my profile on IADN

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          #5
          Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

          Maybe I'm not understanding the question but it's definitely possible to run WAS and have multiple websites like www.site1.com and www.site2.com instead of www.site.com/site1 and www.site.com/site2.
          The Apache Module that I bought from Alpha showed me how to set it up.
          As far as setting up email, ftp, etc, like Plesk also does, those can be set up using the email software like mailenable which is free, and for an ftp server, I'll be using bulletproof which is what A5Online uses. It's something like $35.

          It's not something that you would then have a customer of yours set up and use which is something Plesk can do, but if the question is multiple websites, then that works.

          If I misunderstood the question, then just throw my answer in the garbage.

          Alan

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            #6
            Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

            Alan, I think this is the appropriate answer, and a tested model. Can you tell me what bandwidth you are running in to your server? DSL, or T1, etc? Are you hosting it at your site, or at a hosting company? Also, does Apache model run on a Windows computer?
            Steve Wood
            See my profile on IADN

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              #7
              Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

              I am hosting on a dedicated GoDaddy Windows 2003 server.
              The Apache module from Alpha runs on Windows and let's you have multiple websites being served from one server.
              I had set mine up and then had to shut it down and now I'm setting it up again, but I had run 2 sites to make sure it could be done. I will have 2-5 sites on it running in some manner within the next 2-3 days.
              My sites right now will be fairly small, but I'm just getting into web programming so I'm really bad at it so far.
              Alan

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                #8
                Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                Originally posted by asawyer13
                Maybe I'm not understanding the question but it's definitely possible to run WAS and have multiple websites like www.site1.com and www.site2.com instead of www.site.com/site1 and www.site.com/site2.
                The Apache Module that I bought from Alpha showed me how to set it up.
                As far as setting up email, ftp, etc, like Plesk also does, those can be set up using the email software like mailenable which is free, and for an ftp server, I'll be using bulletproof which is what A5Online uses. It's something like $35.

                Alan
                Alan,

                I think you underdstand it correctly !

                To start out, I have 6 domains, 3 sets of .com and .net to protect the entity names. Naturally, I want: www.site1.[com|net] to go to the same place but different from the: site2 and site3 pairs.

                What is this Apache Module you reference? How much does it cost?
                I will look into the "mailenable", thanx for that tip.
                I too have invested in BulletProof FTP Server so that end is covered.

                I was looking for the piece to handle the web and eventually mail routing, as this is the last hurdle to getting online.

                Regards,
                Keith
                Keith Weatherhead
                Discus Data, Ltd
                [email protected]

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                  #9
                  Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                  The Apache Module was $299.
                  It is purchased from Alpha.
                  When you say mail routing what exactly are you meaning?
                  Alan

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                    #10
                    Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                    Originally posted by asawyer13
                    The Apache Module was $299.
                    It is purchased from Alpha.
                    When you say mail routing what exactly are you meaning?
                    Alan
                    Alan,

                    OK, so I need to purchase another AS component, hummm... I will look into that, thanx.

                    This project is still evolving. Currently,we need the 3 pairs of entities for the web site(s). But due to how some things are being designed going forward each of these entites may also have some mailboxes associated with them.

                    That part is not yet hammered out, but I could end up with, [email protected] and [email protected]. Could be several at each domain... I am trying to plan for it, so that if if it happens I have what I need in place.

                    In any case it will not be very big mail systems, maybe 25-100 mailboxes at the most. More than likely several will be for some sort of automated processing functionality.

                    Regards,
                    Keith
                    Keith Weatherhead
                    Discus Data, Ltd
                    [email protected]

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                      #11
                      Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                      Originally posted by asawyer13
                      The Apache Module was $299.
                      It is purchased from Alpha.
                      Alan
                      Alan,

                      Is the Apache Module something current?
                      I cannot find it anywhere on the site.

                      Regards,
                      Keith
                      Keith Weatherhead
                      Discus Data, Ltd
                      [email protected]

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                        #12
                        Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                        They don't talk about it too much, but it exists and it is sold.
                        Alan

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                          #13
                          Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                          Originally posted by asawyer13
                          They don't talk about it too much, but it exists and it is sold.
                          Alan
                          THANX, Alan !!

                          My copy will be on the way shortly.

                          I wish this weren't quite the secret that it appears to be, if you need Virtual Hosting this is exactly what you need. Should be in their product store, guess they have too much money right now, huh?

                          Regards,
                          Keith
                          Keith Weatherhead
                          Discus Data, Ltd
                          [email protected]

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                            #14
                            Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                            I think it's a question of there being a need, which I think there is, and Alpha making it available, but not really being in a position to support it in their normal manner.
                            I should hopefully complete my set up tonight, so we can compare notes if needed.
                            Are you running this on your own machine? or a hosted machine?
                            Alan

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                              #15
                              Re: Virtual Host Manager and WAS

                              Originally posted by asawyer13
                              I think it's a question of there being a need, which I think there is, and Alpha making it available, but not really being in a position to support it in their normal manner.
                              I should hopefully complete my set up tonight, so we can compare notes if needed.
                              Are you running this on your own machine? or a hosted machine?
                              Alan
                              Alan,

                              From what I see, it is custom and support would probably be mostly on a paid basis, would be my guess. After reading the docs it would appear to be pretty straight forward to do, once you have Apache setup. I could be wrong as I have not attempted it but I have read the docs completely and there really does not seem to be any surprises from the Alpha side of things.

                              Best of luck on getting your setup going, hope things go well.

                              I will be doing this on my machine, in a "sort of" co-location environment where I will actually have access to the physical machine and remote access to the router and system for configuration purposes.

                              Regards,
                              Keith
                              Keith Weatherhead
                              Discus Data, Ltd
                              [email protected]

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