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    Developer sellout by Alpha

    Hey Developers,

    At the last developers conference, Alpha told us that they were starting an inhouse developers service for end users. Many of us experessed our unhappiness with that and we stated to the Alpha folks, in no uncertain terms that if they do offer this service, they are directly competing with the developers who have supported and are fiercely loyal to Alpha and have been so for many, many years. They got the message loud and clear (or at least we thought they did) and that item was immediately removed from the main menu of the Alpha site.

    I just happened to click on the Professional Service link on the Alpha main menu and guess what - they have snuck it back in (Professional Services, Submit Project Request). How does this make you feel? You buy Alpha products, support Alpha, develop and base your business on Alpha and this is how Alpha supports us?

    Do I sound pissed? You bet I do. What does the rest of the developer community think about this?

    Dave
    Dave Jampole
    www.customalpha.com

    Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.


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    Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

    No need for us then!!!

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      #3
      Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

      Dave,

      I can't really believe this means what you are saying. The Alpha programming staff has MORE than their hands full just trying to get new features and new versions out. Look how far behind they are in releasing v8. Who would do their custom application programming? Selwyn? Come on! It can't mean what you think.
      Peter
      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

      [email protected]
      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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        Peter,

        I appreciate your optimism, so I'll ask the obvious - What does it mean? I agree that it probably doesn't mean Selwyn (or Lenny or any other members of the development team), so who does that leave? Are they, maybe, thinking about bringing some developers on board?

        Dave
        Last edited by davej; 09-15-2006, 12:48 PM. Reason: Added content
        Dave Jampole
        www.customalpha.com

        Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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          #5
          Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

          Originally posted by davej View Post
          Are they, maybe, thinking about bringing some developers on board?
          That would seem to be the reasonable interpretation. I can't imagine that Alpha would go to war against it's own user base. Rest easy, Dave. :)
          Peter
          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

          [email protected]
          https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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            #6
            Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

            I have a little inside info on this and Alpha is not bringing any developers on board. I think they should do a better job of announcing their intentions, but I also think you are pre-judging and applying general condemnation for something you have not bothered to ask them directly about.
            Steve Wood
            See my profile on IADN

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              Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

              Wrong Steve,

              I DID ask at the developers conference and we were told they planned on offering in-house development. I will give you that between the conference and now, their plans certainly could have changed, but this sure smells now like it did then.

              Would you care to share your 'inside info' with the rest of us so that we can rest easy?

              Dave
              Last edited by davej; 09-15-2006, 01:25 PM.
              Dave Jampole
              www.customalpha.com

              Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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                Dave - I want to set the record straight.

                We are in the TOOLS business not the CONSULTING BUSINESS and have no plans to hire developers for consulting.

                As Peter points out - we have our hands more than full in building the best possible TOOL for building database applications.



                THE wording on this page http://alphasoftware.com/services/proservice.asp will be modified to indicate that these consulting opportunities will be passed on by Alpha to its developer community.

                Also Dave, as you know from past experience, we try and be as open as possible. If issues of concern arise please just me call me directly rather than getting bothered about something (like this) that is simply not the case.

                Thanks
                Richard Rabins
                Co Chairman
                Alpha Software

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                  Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

                  Originally posted by Richard Rabins View Post
                  We are in the TOOLS business not the CONSULTING BUSINESS and have no plans to hire developers for consulting.
                  Are these guys straight shooters or what? Nothing to worry about.;)
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                  [email protected]
                  https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                    Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

                    Richard,

                    I apologize and stand corrected. However, posting some advance information on this would have let us know what was coming.

                    Dave
                    Dave Jampole
                    www.customalpha.com

                    Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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                      Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

                      Dave, I was in the room with you when the presentation was made and the message was ambiguous because they were looking for input from the other consultants and did not have a specific program to deliver. When they suggested bringing development in-house, we all reacted strongly, and they abandoned, right there in the meeting, that idea.

                      I don't have 'inside info' because I am anything special or privileged in some way. I do make it a habit to routinely engage with Alpha staff to share ideas and build rapport. Because of that, I don't need to react, I can just ask.
                      Steve Wood
                      See my profile on IADN

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                        Re: Developer sellout by Alpha

                        Friends:

                        We are not being sold out by Alpha. Alpha appreciates and wants to work with developers who are helping to market their tools.

                        As I see it, Alpha is simply trying to raise the profile of the tool, and of course the company. This is good for us as developers. It means we have a unique skill set with a serious business tool from a serious company.

                        The issue of having to explain to a customer what Alpha is, becomes less of an issue as Alpha does more aggressive marketing. Any services and programs they publicize to enhances their image and the image of their product;which by default enhances our images as well...

                        Take a look at Oracle for example. There are thousands of successful Oracle consultants, entire companies even, which offer Oracle database consulting. This is true, even though Oracle as a company offers their own consulting services with their products.

                        In my humble opinion, this is going to help ensure the longevity of the product we all are using to earn revenue.

                        Rich
                        Rich Kerr
                        http://www.richkerr.com
                        [email protected]

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