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    I want an & (ampersand) on a button

    This should be simple to do, but I've been hitting my head against a wall for about three hours and I cannot break the code. HELP!!

    I know the ampersand preceeding any character displays the character with an underscore and makes the character act as a hotkey. I want a button with just the ampersand symbol (&) on it. I've tried a single ampersand and I get the underscore character; a double ampersand (&&) displays and ampersand with an underscore. I've tried every combination I can think of (slash or backslash in combination with the ampersand) all to no avail.

    Does anyone know if it is even possible to display the ampersand character on a key and have it not function as the hotkey trigger?

    Thanks,

    Dave
    Dave Jampole
    www.customalpha.com

    Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.


    #2
    Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

    Allright Dave...you wasted three hours looking for "nothiing", since all you need is "nothing"
    Here:
    & &
    notice the nothing, I mean the space between the two!

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      #3
      Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

      G (can I call you G ?),

      No joy. Ampersand, space, ampersand yields underscore followed by an ampersand. Space, ampersand or ampersand, space both yield an underscore character by itself, At least on my system.

      Dave
      Dave Jampole
      www.customalpha.com

      Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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        #4
        Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

        Originally posted by davej View Post
        Does anyone know if it is even possible to display the ampersand character on a key and have it not function as the hotkey trigger?
        Dave

        I don't think you can fight the system on this one. - directly-

        So the indirect route is to make an image with what you want and put it there as an image only button. Then you have the & and not have a hotkey.
        Al Buchholz
        Bookwood Systems, LTD
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        Occam's Razor - KISS
        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
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        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
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          #5
          Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

          Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
          Dave

          I don't think you can fight the system on this one. - directly-

          So the indirect route is to make an image with what you want and put it there as an image only button. Then you have the & and not have a hotkey.
          Another indirect route, although trivially different, is to create a text object containing the ampersand (with a whatever style border and shadow you have for buttons) and a hotspot with the onpush code you would want for the button. Size the hot spot slightly larger same, put the hotspot on top of the text object, group them, voila.
          Last edited by Stan Mathews; 11-04-2006, 07:27 PM.
          There can be only one.

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            #6
            Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

            Allright..so the underscore makes you unhappy.
            Here:
            Put a text box with the ampersand.
            Overalpp the text box with a hot spot object.
            done.

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              #7
              Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

              Stan beat me to it!

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                #8
                Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                Stan/Al/G,

                I'm going to cave in and go the image route, but it sure seems like there should be a way to use the ampersand and deactivate the hot key functionality.

                It just ain't no fun taking the easy route.;)

                Dave
                Dave Jampole
                www.customalpha.com

                Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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                  #9
                  Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                  All,
                  I have tried overlapping text boxes and buttons, text boxes and text boxes, etc, and I have never gotten them to work reliably. Sometimes the text box load on top of the button, other times form loads with the text image behind the button and no text is visible. If you get this to work for you, please let us now how. Al's suggestion and your final choice is the only way I have gotten this to work consistently.

                  Mike W
                  Mike W
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                    #10
                    Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                    Mike:
                    I have tried overlapping text boxes and buttons, text boxes and text boxes, etc, and I have never gotten them to work reliably
                    Use "Order" to bring the object to front or back.

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                      #11
                      Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                      Okay, I got it!

                      I created a text element on the form with the ampersand, then used a screen capture utility (MWSnap - donation ware) to capture and then save the ampersand as a .bmp image. Then I simply set the button style as Bitmap only, selected the saved .bmp as the element on the button. Problem solved.

                      Dave
                      Dave Jampole
                      www.customalpha.com

                      Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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                        #12
                        Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

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                        Last edited by G Gabriel; 05-11-2007, 05:17 AM.

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                          #13
                          Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                          G

                          Nice work. Thanks.

                          The & as a file name gave me a moment of pause, but it didn't affect the operation. Still as a matter of best practices, I won't do that.

                          I added the example of the image to your form and have included it as an attachment.

                          I think both methods have their own advantages and disadvantages. So I put them both there so each developer can decide which method works the best for them.
                          Al Buchholz
                          Bookwood Systems, LTD
                          Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                          Occam's Razor - KISS
                          Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                          Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                          When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                          "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                          Albert Einstein

                          http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                            #14
                            Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                            Al,

                            There seems to be a problem with your .zip file.

                            Dave
                            Dave Jampole
                            www.customalpha.com

                            Women and cats will do whatever they want. The sooner men and dogs realize that, the happier they will be.

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                              Re: I want an & (ampersand) on a button

                              Dave

                              I just took it off the board to 2 different computers and it worked OK.

                              What problem did you have with it?
                              Al Buchholz
                              Bookwood Systems, LTD
                              Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                              Occam's Razor - KISS
                              Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                              Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                              When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                              "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                              Albert Einstein

                              http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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