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    #31
    Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    I was responding to Gabriel.
    Yes, I was aware of that.

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    His photo shows a form floating over word with no Alpha window showing.
    I looked better at the photo and indeed it floats in a nice way. All other attempts did not suffice. Didn't want to offend someone with my remark about the dicussion. :o

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    Just trying to make sure i go in the right direction with this. I am working on compialing all my scripts now for the toolbar and then i will need to start adding then in to what ever toolbar i end up with.
    I can understand that it can be confusing if you are new to Alpha Five and do not have a total view of the possibilities. Once you choose a direction it can be time consuming if it afterwards appears as the wrong one and have to redo your work.

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    As for learning Xdialog i have looked at this a lot and from my point of view at this time i see no starting point on how to learn it fast and the help files are very confusing.
    I know what you mean. But I have discovered some benefits and will take the time to walk through this manual.

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    I just got a Xbasic book to start with that will take a long time for me to understand..
    The start is always difficult. As you become more and more acquainted with Xbasic the progress get faster.

    Originally posted by Digitaled View Post
    Starting in March i will have very little time as we have 5 to 6 weddings a month and will have portrait session almost every day on the beach.
    Right now is my slow time to try and get all this done
    The beach, Ohhhh I love that. :)
    Marcel

    I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
    ---- Confusius ----

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      #32
      IT Floats and it was easy

      I was working on other things when i discovered a way to make a form float out of the Alpha window it works great but now i need help making it work right.

      I have included a photo of a test Form floating over Photo Shop and thanks to the stay on top code it stays on top no matter what.
      Plus the Photo Shop droplets still work.

      Here is all i did and what the problem is i have to over come next.

      Open up a project in Alpha make sure you have at lest two forms made one can be anything and then the form you want to float out of Alpha.

      #1 Go into edit mode of the form you want to float.

      #2 Add a button to the form

      #3 click on next to go into the Use Action Scripting.

      #4 Click on add a new action and pick (Open Form as a Dialog Box)

      That's it save it
      It will float out of Alpha now when you push the new button.


      Now here's is the problem

      When you click on the button it creates a second copy of the form.
      This second copy is now a dialog box you can move all around anyplace in and out of the Alpha window all on it's own.

      The problem is when you are moving it around the Alpha window it locked so you can not minimize the Alpha window or anything till you close the new floating box.

      You can size down the Alpha window before you click on the button and then grab the new box and move it around any place.


      I need to find a way to.

      At start up of Alpha have Alpha sent to the tray and some how make the button auto push it self so the (Toolbar form) pops up over the top of everything ready to go.
      I think i can use a invisible button area so it shows no button at all or maybe it could just use code to run the action with out a button?

      Any help on how to do this would get great

      I could see complete applications made like this from working floating Dialogs,,You could Float your data base over anything and move around your windows as you wish if you could get many of them to work at the same time. I did not test that yet but its making me think of new possibility's all ready.
      Last edited by Digitaled; 01-26-2007, 07:17 AM.

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        #33
        Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

        You need a modeless xdialog form. Use UI_MODELESS_DLG_BOX() . Action scription creates a 'normal' one, witch floats but you cannot access the application which started the form. If you use a modeless one then you can access Alpha Five. See thread and thread and the Xdialog index.

        On the other hand I've found some 'code' to make a normal form modeless. I'll let you know if it works.
        Last edited by Marcel Kollenaar; 01-26-2007, 08:42 AM.
        Marcel

        I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
        ---- Confusius ----

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          #34
          Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

          This should be the right picture.

          Open up Alpha 5V7.
          Navigate to the folder where you opened the zip file.
          Open A5_window_size.alb
          It should open right up in the middle of your screen.
          Alpha 5 Version 11
          AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
          DBF's and MySql
          Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

          Ron Anusiewicz

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            #35
            Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

            Ron:
            I am surprised you haven't heard from Trump yet! I mean the clutter at the top. I know you could easily clear it up just as I did. It's not a big deal.

            Ed:
            I guess the first and most important lesson learnt here is:
            Don't ever listen to anyone who tells you it can not be done!

            That being said:
            The way you described how you did it, is OK, but not the cleanest way:

            1-You don't need a button to push. You could run your script on a-starting your DB, b-from a global script, or c-from a custom menu or toolbar. In fact, you don't need to run any scripts. Just make the form that's supposed to float your default form and make alpha opens to it.

            2-To avoid opening multiple instances of the same form, I use a simple script that checks to see if the form is open, if so activate it, if not, open it:

            If is_object("form_name")
            form_name.activate()
            form_name.show()
            else
            form.view("form_name")

            3-You could open the form as a dialg the way you did it, or you could check the properties in the form and make the window dialog (although it will not detach from alpha) or you could do the same with xbasic.

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              #36
              Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

              Originally posted by Ronald Anusiewicz View Post
              This should be the right picture.

              Open up Alpha 5V7.
              Navigate to the folder where you opened the zip file.
              Open A5_window_size.alb
              It should open right up in the middle of your screen.
              Ronald, I ran your example. That is a very elegant and simple solution. I haven't seen this before. Thanks for the example. I'll put this in my library. I copy others word when I say: "Put it in the Code section."
              Last edited by Marcel Kollenaar; 01-26-2007, 12:16 PM.
              Marcel

              I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
              ---- Confusius ----

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                #37
                Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                Ok, Ronald. You convinced me. Nice example!

                Originally posted by Marcel Kollenaar View Post
                "Put it in the Code section."
                Agreed


                Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                I am surprised you haven't heard from Trump yet! I mean the clutter at the top. I know you could easily clear it up just as I did. It's not a big deal.
                Ok, it can be done. Although I don't know how Donald Trump would feel about it, you, on the other hand, clearly have taken my criticism personally.
                Peter
                AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                [email protected]
                https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                  #38
                  Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                  Peter:
                  No, I haven't taken anything personal, but when I respond to a question on the board, I don't feel that I have to deliver the final product signed sealed packaged and gift-wrapped. I am allowing the possibilty that the person who asked knows how to take it from here and put the final touches on it, such as hide the control panel or hide the toolbar etc. If he later indicates that he does not know how to do that, then I might take the further steps (that might not have been needed in the first place) to take it to the finish line.

                  Your description of it as being ugly centers around eleminating these items, the control panel, toolbar etc which I had assumed most people know how to do and that I did not need to be spending extra time doing it.

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                    #39
                    Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                    That's fine. When I saw the examples I guess I couldn't quite visualize it otherwise. Like I said, the example looks fine and does work well. Now why didn't I think of that? Hhhmmm....

                    I stand corrected and I am glad that it can be done, cleanly!

                    Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                    Peter:
                    No, I haven't taken anything personal, but when I respond to a question on the board, I don't feel that I have to deliver the final product signed sealed packaged and gift-wrapped. I am allowing the possibilty that the person who asked knows how to take it from here and put the final touches on it, such as hide the control panel or hide the toolbar etc. If he later indicates that he does not know how to do that, then I might take the further steps (that might not have been needed in the first place) to take it to the finish line.

                    Your description of it as being ugly centers around eleminating these items, the control panel, toolbar etc which I had assumed most people know how to do and that I did not need to be spending extra time doing it.
                    Peter
                    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                    [email protected]
                    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                      #40
                      Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                      Even Rosie, with a bunch of Cosmetic surgeries..
                      maybe not!

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                        #41
                        Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                        Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                        Even Rosie, with a bunch of Cosmetic surgeries..
                        maybe not!
                        To be honest with you, I don't even like to pick on Rosie. We all have our shortcomings. I know I do.
                        Peter
                        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                        [email protected]
                        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                          #42
                          Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                          Totaly agree...except she made herself a target. You know what they say: If you live in a glass house...

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                            #43
                            Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                            Ok thanks everyone.

                            I just got up almost 2 pm i was up till past 6am working on all this last night.

                            I will work on the different ways to open it up i could not sleep well thinking about it.

                            It will be much later today till i get to it.
                            Today is my wife's birthday she is 47 we are going to dinner and a movie.
                            I have a big wedding to shoot tomorrow also that is going to slow me down a little.

                            I am so happy this can be done my toolbar will look much better now when done.

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                              #44
                              Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                              Ok, here's a variation of the theme. After the form opens, click the "Popup" button.
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                              [email protected]
                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                                #45
                                Re: Why cant i make a form work like other parts of Alpha

                                And I made a variation on Peter's Theme. This one stays also on Top. Warning: When you open the database Alpha Five is default put to the Top Level. The code is put in the autoxec script.



                                See also cross link.
                                Last edited by Marcel Kollenaar; 01-26-2007, 06:03 PM.
                                Marcel

                                I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
                                ---- Confusius ----

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