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    Port 443 and 80

    Does anyone know if WAS will support 80/443 at some point, I need to have some of my website use port 80 while other parts need SSL port 43,
    its to my understanding we can only use port 80 or port 443 but not both.
    Kind Regards,
    Ray Roosa
    Raylin Micro, LLC.

    #2
    Re: Port 443 and 80

    Ray, I was told by Alpha that it was one way or the other, not both.

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      #3
      Re: Port 443 and 80

      True, with Alpha alone, one or the other. If you put an Apache server in front, it can watch both ports. You'd put Alpha on port 81, Apache would watch ports 80 and 443, and direct traffic to http://yourapp or https://yourapp. The SSL settings in Alpha Application Server would not play a role at all.

      If you are worried about speed, I have a busy application fully on SSL and do not notice any performance problem. There are pages I would rather not have on SSL, but they are, and its not a problem.
      Steve Wood
      See my profile on IADN

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        #4
        Re: Port 443 and 80

        Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
        True, with Alpha alone, one or the other. If you put an Apache server in front, it can watch both ports. You'd put Alpha on port 81, Apache would watch ports 80 and 443, and direct traffic to http://yourapp or https://yourapp. The SSL settings in Alpha Application Server would not play a role at all.

        If you are worried about speed, I have a busy application fully on SSL and do not notice any performance problem. There are pages I would rather not have on SSL, but they are, and its not a problem.
        Hi Steve,
        Could I not do the same thing with Microsoft IIS? the reason I ask I am already running a Bill Gates shop :(

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        Kind Regards,
        Ray Roosa
        Raylin Micro, LLC.

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          #5
          Re: Port 443 and 80

          Don't know.
          Steve Wood
          See my profile on IADN

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            #6
            Re: Port 443 and 80

            Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
            Don't know.
            Steve,
            Do you know if Lenny is working on this? I thought I remember A5 would be able to do both 80/443 at some point.
            Kind Regards,
            Ray Roosa
            Raylin Micro, LLC.

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              #7
              Re: Port 443 and 80

              Spoke to him last week and he did not indicate about any future plans, suggested Apache to me to resolve.
              Steve Wood
              See my profile on IADN

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                #8
                Re: Port 443 and 80

                Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                Spoke to him last week and he did not indicate about any future plans, suggested Apache to me to resolve.
                Steve,
                Is their a link for Apache?
                Kind Regards,
                Ray Roosa
                Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                  #9
                  Re: Port 443 and 80

                  http://www.apache.org/

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                    #10
                    Re: Port 443 and 80

                    Originally posted by Phil Rolf View Post
                    Hi Phil,
                    What I meant was what is the link to the Apache module Alpha has for WAS, I know thats the link for Apache but their is way to much confusion with this open source stuff.
                    Kind Regards,
                    Ray Roosa
                    Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                      #11
                      Re: Port 443 and 80

                      Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                      Spoke to him last week and he did not indicate about any future plans, suggested Apache to me to resolve.
                      Steve,
                      I almost certain that Alpha said one day WAS will be abel to use both port 80/443 but then maybe I am wrong if WAS is not meant to be a front-end web server and only used for the transaction side of things the WAS would be setup on 443 if your transaction need to use SSL
                      and in this case we need to use another web server on port 80 for the front-end to redirect to the WAS.

                      This does not seem like the best setup because we need to peace meal this together.
                      Kind Regards,
                      Ray Roosa
                      Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                        #12
                        Re: Port 443 and 80

                        Ray, I don't know if this will help but check out

                        http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=20932

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                          #13
                          Re: Port 443 and 80

                          I was asked the question offline, if deploying Apache would allow you to go back and forth from port 80 to 443 (http to https) within the same website. I did some testing, and yes it makes it possible.

                          Here are my test notes, but the below may not work by time you look at this, I still am configuring the server.

                          In my test, I set Apache to listen on port 80 and 443, and ignoring A5 for a moment, these URL's both work:

                          https://www.reportlocal.com/index.htm
                          http://www.reportlocal.com/index.htm

                          Bringing in A5, so do these:

                          https://www.reportlocal.com/indextest.a5w
                          http://www.reportlocal.com/indextest.a5w

                          To test going from HTTP to HTTPS, I created an indextest.a5w with this:

                          --------------------
                          Welcome ReportLocal - indextest.A5W Page

                          http://www.reportlocal.com/unsecurepage.a5w
                          https://www.reportlocal.com/securepage.a5w
                          Alpha Version8 (A5 function call)
                          --------------------

                          I could bounce back and forth between the two pages without any problem. However, because I did not purchase a SSL license, it gives the standard Invalid Certificate warning in XP.
                          Steve Wood
                          See my profile on IADN

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                            #14
                            Re: Port 443 and 80

                            Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                            I was asked the question offline, if deploying Apache would allow you to go back and forth from port 80 to 443 (http to https) within the same website. I did some testing, and yes it makes it possible.

                            Here are my test notes, but the below may not work by time you look at this, I still am configuring the server.

                            In my test, I set Apache to listen on port 80 and 443, and ignoring A5 for a moment, these URL's both work:

                            https://www.reportlocal.com/index.htm
                            http://www.reportlocal.com/index.htm

                            Bringing in A5, so do these:

                            https://www.reportlocal.com/indextest.a5w
                            http://www.reportlocal.com/indextest.a5w

                            To test going from HTTP to HTTPS, I created an indextest.a5w with this:

                            --------------------
                            Welcome ReportLocal - indextest.A5W Page

                            http://www.reportlocal.com/unsecurepage.a5w
                            https://www.reportlocal.com/securepage.a5w
                            Alpha Version8 (A5 function call)
                            --------------------

                            I could bounce back and forth between the two pages without any problem. However, because I did not purchase a SSL license, it gives the standard Invalid Certificate warning in XP.
                            Hi Steve,
                            Thank you for the info, could you please provide me the link for the version of Apache your using? did you get Apache from Alpha?

                            What port is WAS on? 81
                            Kind Regards,
                            Ray Roosa
                            Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                              #15
                              Re: Port 443 and 80

                              Call Alpha sales on Apache.
                              Steve Wood
                              See my profile on IADN

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