Videos - Great - Wish there were more

[jmatienza]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

For those who cut their teeth making desktop applications, a video showing web app creation from the ground up, including creating the tables. I understand set definitions and field rules used in the desktop don't apply. So how to get the same functionality on the web app.

Thanks!

[Doug Page]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Steve,

First of all let me say thank you for even contemplating this task. In my mind, this alone could be a very full time job for someone.

As for ideas... most people need to see just how things work. To get over the hump of initial learning for the newby, building of a small application from start to finish would be useful. Then progress to changing some parts of the beginning app into xbasic to see how that would be accomplished. All the way to converting the app to be web enabled for an intranet. Of course there would be many, many other steps in between (and much time).

Just my take on how I have found most peoples ease of learning.

Thanks again.
Doug

[Steve Wood]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Jose,

This probbaly belongs in a different thread, but to relate records in the web you can use GridLinker or TabbedGridLinker which sets up links between tables just like Sets.

Often you need to post records to multiple related tables, without linking them in a GridLinker arrangement. For example, below I am adding to Thickes and TicketHistory after fabricating a unique ID directly in the web. You'll note that except for the pathing and __protected__ variable, its something you could do for a non-web database also.

loops = val(right(str(int(toseconds(time()))),3))
FOR i = 1 TO loops
	vrand = rand()
next
session.web_id = time("MMddyy0h0m0s3",now()) + floor(vrand * 10000)


dim tbl as p
tbl=table.open("[PathAlias.ADB_Path]\ticket")
tbl.enter_begin()
	tbl.web_id	= session.web_id
	tbl.client_ID 	= session.__protected__pUser.ulink 
	tbl.Domain_name 	= domain
	tbl.Subject 	= subject
	tbl.Category	= category
	tbl.Status	= "Open"
	tbl.Post_Time	= now()
	tbl.Mod_Time	= now()
tbl.enter_end(.t.)
tbl.close()

session.ticketNo = lookup("[PathAlias.ADB_Path]\ticket","web_id="+alltrim(quote(session.web_id)),"Id")

tbl=table.open("[PathAlias.ADB_Path]\tickethistory")
tbl.enter_begin()
	tbl.web_id	= session.web_id
	tbl.Description 	= description
	tbl.Subject 	= subject
	tbl.Post_Time	= now()
	tbl.Posted_by	= "Client"
tbl.enter_end()
tbl.close()

[jmatienza]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Whoosh! Way over my head, Steve.

I've read of Gridlinker components, of course. But I still would like to see the video version.

To paraphrase a wise saying, "To read is to forget. To see is to remember."

[randbo]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Yes, I think a video on Gridlinker components, that is my problem. I just need to see it happen, and someone explain it then I think it will click for me.

Best wishes,

[Richard Rabins]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

I would love to see Steve create these videos! I am sure he will do a great job.
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in the meantime if you would like to download the videos from Selwyn's webinar on "whats new in Alpha Five v8" last week - please email me at [email protected]

We will send them out next week.

There are 3 files
1) web development (34 minutes)
2) desktop development (30 minutes)
3) SQL (15 minutes)

Thanks
Richard

we plan on doing more!!

The next two we are planning are

A) An introduction to Alpha Five version 8 for people who dont think of themselves as programmers
B) An Introduction to Alpha Five version 8 for people who are comfortable with programming

Suggestions for the agenda of these webinars would be welcome

[Marcel Kollenaar]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Camtasia Studio Version 3 for free! See link

[Doug Page]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Marcel,

Thank you!

[Richard Rabins]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

another related topic is

http://www.jingproject.com/

this is from the same company that makes Camtasia - the beauty of this is that you get to post and share your videos instantly on the web without having to worry about preparing the files for hosting and then actually hosting them

pretty amazing stuff. we are using them at Alpha and are very impressed.

Check it out - you will find it is a great way to describe issues you are having and also to show off your work to clients and prospects or even to colleagues.

[computerizedshepherd]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

I bought the training videos via the web site. Actually they were technically free but for a charge for posting. Unfortunately the discs arrived corrupted and initial communications with Alpha Software looked promising for replacements. However Alpha Software doesn't appreciate that some of their loyal customers live outside the USA (and therefore on a different planet). So unless I can provide them with a USA address no replacement. Ironically they managed to send them out to France the first time.
I feel I have been badly let down by Alpha.

[Richard Rabins]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

that is not our policy

if they arrived damaged we will resend them at no charge - no matter where in the world you are:)

please contact us with details [email protected] and you will be taken care of thanks

[RobPolley]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Steve,

I'd like to see videos on crosstabs. I can make them, but formatting them to look great has been difficult. I'd also like to make them for the web. I realize that most of the code that I'd need is generated on the desktop side, but for me it's a big leap to get that code to work on the WAS side.

Thanks!

-Rob

[Steve Wood]

Re: Videos - Great - Wish there were more

Thanks, making the videos can be fun. But they do take a bit of work, and I have to be inspired to invest the time -- gotta get me one of those "green screens" now:). I think it would be great for ANYONE to cut a 1-5 minute videos on whatever tip or trick they ran across and push them up to some central place for all to view. I think the mistake I have made in mine is that they are too long, and to theatrical, too much of a 'production'. That makes them harder than they might be otherwise. But again, a dirth of short and sweet video cuts on just one topic at a time, properly indexed, would be a nice resource.