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    Sending Email

    Hi All,
    Hew host their own email server in-house and what are you using?

    I am not having any luck sending mail with A5v8 threw my Microsoft Exchange Server, I have tried everything but I cant send mail.
    Kind Regards,
    Ray Roosa
    Raylin Micro, LLC.

    #2
    Re: Sending Email

    I use the EMAIL_SMTP_SEND() and related functions in several locations without problem.

    Maybe give us some more details about what you're doing/using/trying?
    -Steve
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      #3
      Re: Sending Email

      Originally posted by Steve Workings View Post
      I use the EMAIL_SMTP_SEND() and related functions in several locations without problem.

      Maybe give us some more details about what you're doing/using/trying?
      I give up, I have been trying to use our Microsoft Exchange Server for sending mail from A5v8 and everything I try fails so I signed up for a free GMail account and google allows you to send mail using outlook and other mail client software, I setup Alpha with the mail setting for google and we still cant send a test mail because it fails see below for Error-

      "Connect to Outgoing (SMTP) Server failed:
      The hostname might be incorect or the server may be down.
      WSAECONNREFUSED - Connection refused while connecting.
      Detailed Description:
      No connection could be made because the target computer actively refused it.
      This usually results from trying to connect to a service that is inactive on the
      foreign host�that is, one with no server application running.
      Kind Regards,
      Ray Roosa
      Raylin Micro, LLC.

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        #4
        Re: Sending Email

        Ray

        I think by default MS Exchange server does not use the POP3 or SMTP protocol. You can enable it as an option.

        There are instructions on the MS website to do this..
        Al Buchholz
        Bookwood Systems, LTD
        Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

        Occam's Razor - KISS
        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
        Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
        "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
        Albert Einstein

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          #5
          Re: Sending Email

          Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
          Ray

          I think by default MS Exchange server does not use the POP3 or SMTP protocol. You can enable it as an option.

          There are instructions on the MS website to do this..
          Hi Al,
          I have tryed everything and could not get it working on exchange, I also cant get it working with Gmail and that uses smtp/pop
          Kind Regards,
          Ray Roosa
          Raylin Micro, LLC.

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            #6
            Re: Sending Email

            A quick look at gmail - I don't use it - tells me that pop needs to be enabled separately..
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

            Occam's Razor - KISS
            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
            Albert Einstein

            http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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              #7
              Re: Sending Email

              Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
              A quick look at gmail - I don't use it - tells me that pop needs to be enabled separately..
              Al,
              Yes and I did that but still fails, I setup outlook with all the Gmail setting and it works so I know I am not doing anything wrong with the settings.

              Al would you mind setting up a free gmail account and trying A5v8 to see if you get it working cause I can't?
              Kind Regards,
              Ray Roosa
              Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                #8
                Re: Sending Email

                We use Lansuite from 602 Software. It's simple and has lots of features. We don't yet use it with Alpha but it does everything else we could ask. I think it's also still free for a 5 user license to try it. We tried a few others before settling on this one due to it's flexibility. We also use their antivirus scanning which has worked pretty well.

                Russ

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                  #9
                  Re: Sending Email

                  Ray

                  It does work using a5v8 with gmail.

                  You need to change a few defaults to make it work though.

                  Gmail has help that will work you through it. I setup an account, connected with another email client - Thunderbird - and then used those same settings with a5v8 to make it work.

                  Note the ports are not default or the the security.

                  pop.gmail.com port 995 SSL
                  smtp.gmail.com port 587 TLS

                  http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=38343
                  Al Buchholz
                  Bookwood Systems, LTD
                  Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                  Occam's Razor - KISS
                  Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                  Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                  When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                  "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                  Albert Einstein

                  http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                    #10
                    Re: Sending Email

                    Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
                    Ray

                    It does work using a5v8 with gmail.

                    You need to change a few defaults to make it work though.

                    Gmail has help that will work you through it. I setup an account, connected with another email client - Thunderbird - and then used those same settings with a5v8 to make it work.

                    Note the ports are not default or the the security.

                    pop.gmail.com port 995 SSL
                    smtp.gmail.com port 587 TLS

                    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=38343
                    Al,
                    Thank you for taking the time to test for me, I used the setting you used and all worked good I only get one error see below-

                    "Test e-mail send failed:
                    530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first h20sm6218036wxd

                    Al just so you know I am not going crazy take a look at the link below for setting up outlook for GMail you will see the setting for smtp and pop both use SSL and not TLS for out going mail thats what fixed my trouble :)

                    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=13278
                    Last edited by Rayr; 03-17-2007, 10:24 PM.
                    Kind Regards,
                    Ray Roosa
                    Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                      #11
                      Re: Sending Email

                      Originally posted by russ Boehle View Post
                      We use Lansuite from 602 Software. It's simple and has lots of features. We don't yet use it with Alpha but it does everything else we could ask. I think it's also still free for a 5 user license to try it. We tried a few others before settling on this one due to it's flexibility. We also use their antivirus scanning which has worked pretty well.

                      Russ
                      Hi Russ,
                      Thank you for your feedback, that looks like a very nice email server, my MS Exchange Server does everything we need but I was having trouble using SMTP for sending mail but Al has helped me setup Google GMail (a free service) to send mail from A5.

                      Update-
                      I have now got Alpha sending mail threw my Exchange Server, I hade to tweak the smtp server to allow Alpha to send mail without authenticating with exchange.

                      Thank you all for your help on this.
                      Last edited by Rayr; 03-17-2007, 11:46 PM.
                      Kind Regards,
                      Ray Roosa
                      Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                        #12
                        Re: Sending Email

                        Ray

                        Sounds like you have it solved.... You should be able to use MS Exchange, but only after the needed changes....
                        Al Buchholz
                        Bookwood Systems, LTD
                        Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                        Occam's Razor - KISS
                        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                        Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                        "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                        Albert Einstein

                        http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                          #13
                          Re: Sending Email

                          No matter what I try with Gmail, I still come up with the following message:

                          Test e-mail send failed:
                          530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. c23sm3098144ana.8

                          I've tried both SSL with 587 & 995 and TLS with 25 & 110... it doesn't matter, the same message still appears.

                          Is there any fix for this? Does A5V9 fix this problem or are we stuck with a product that's crippled?

                          Thanx for your help... Hutch

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                            #14
                            Re: Sending Email

                            Originally posted by hutch427 View Post
                            No matter what I try with Gmail, I still come up with the following message:

                            Test e-mail send failed:
                            530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. c23sm3098144ana.8

                            I've tried both SSL with 587 & 995 and TLS with 25 & 110... it doesn't matter, the same message still appears.

                            Is there any fix for this? Does A5V9 fix this problem or are we stuck with a product that's crippled?
                            Are you referring to gmail or Alpha as crippled?

                            I haven't tried gmail in awhile, but have used live mail and it works from there. I think you can use your gmail account in live mail too.
                            Al Buchholz
                            Bookwood Systems, LTD
                            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                            Occam's Razor - KISS
                            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                            Albert Einstein

                            http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                              #15
                              Re: Sending Email

                              To tell you the truth I'm not sure what's broken but Gmail seems to work ok with everything else I throw at it including The Bat and Thunderbird. All I know is I can't access my Gmail accounts with A5V8 and one of those accounts is used with a mailing list which I desired to use Netmailer with.

                              Didn't even know what live mail was until I did a search... I believe I'll pass on Microsoft offerings. ;)

                              Netmailer/A5V8 gives me the capability of personalized email and that's what I wanted to use with Gmail but, it looks like that may have been a waste of money in that regard. I can still use it with Yahoo with TLS and will do so for another mailing list I'm getting ready to start. Oh well, guess I'll use what I have and watch for a fix in A5 sometime in the future.

                              Thanks for the input... Hutch

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