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    #16
    Re: Alpha and Vista

    Thanks for that Richard Rabins. I have to say I did not catch on that the 15% would be shown once I had clicked the 'Buy Now'. Until then it was only apparent that the 15% was on the second purchase.
    As for the comments about purchaseing Vista without understanding how it works and it breaking most majour applications is a bit OTT. As for PDF creator which I mentioned, no way was I compareing a �30 piece of software to a hefty one. I was just pointing out that 'yes, I have found something which I own that does not work as well as Alpha Five V7'.
    I will now plunge in, the torent of critism that has ensued from my original post is typical of those that want to knock Microsoft. I stand by my comment, I am dissapointed... etc.'
    However, Alpha has reseemed itself a bit by looking and responding to my post 'have I missed something'
    I have now found the extra 15% discount.
    I may now get out my MasterCard - Not Visa (or is that Vista)

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      #17
      Re: Alpha and Vista

      Pewtu,

      Sorry if I sounded like I was being critical. I am a user of many MS products for over 20 years. I also think that Vista is a complete step in the right direction for the OS as it is much more secure - though the 32 bit version less so. But I knew it was going to break many of the $1000's I have spent on software so I make sure that I purchase XP machines while I still can. I consider myself quite knowledgeable (that could be a problem) but I would rather wait until the dust settles on Vista and they have released at minimum SP1 - still too many bugs even after their largest beta test.

      I was trying to say that YES you should be disappointed but that perhaps your disappointment might best be directed somewhere other than Alpha Software. Every other major software house is having to rewrite for Vista not just Alpha. Heck, have a look at your favorite firewall software company. They have effectively been put out of business right now for Vista since it won't allow them to install themselves.

      Anyhow, just wanted to clarify after your last post. It's usually posts like this that help bring new info to everyone.

      Doug

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        #18
        Re: Alpha and Vista

        Originally posted by pewtu View Post
        then when I load a previously created database it does not remember it in the opening dialoge.
        Kevin, have you activated your copy of Alpha Five? I had a similar problem with a trial version of V7 installed on Windows XP. It cleared up after activation of V7.

        Just a thought.
        Jim

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          #19
          Re: Alpha and Vista

          Three things.
          Firstly, OK, I am disappointed at ANY software house where the cost of using software, that has been relatively recently purchased, is large because of a required upgrade due to Vista. My account shows that I downloaded V7 less than a year ago, as a free upgrade from V6? which I purchased. I am not in the league of �1000's of software. In fact I am little more than a home user, just liking to get something to use a database for. Now is that an anorak???? The main application I have developed runs the accounts for a local community free magazine.
          Secondly, I did try and activate my V7 on Vista and activation looked as if it stalled. I do not get the messages saying that it is not registered however. Perhaps I should try it again.
          Thirdly, I have paid and downloaded V8. I am now thinking that in fact I should have downloaded a trial of 8.
          At least the 15% discount which I could not find at first has helped matters.

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            #20
            Re: Alpha and Vista

            You have my sympathies. My own decision whether to buy a new computer with Vista has been vastly complicated by the fact that V7 actually may not run on Vista. And I do not want to give up V7 when I have only scratched its surface.

            the cost of using software, that has been relatively recently purchased, is large because of a required upgrade due to Vista.
            The fact is that Vista compatibility is not all that V8 is about. Far from it. If you look at the new features advertised on their web site, it does look like a major new release.
            Jim

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              #21
              Re: Alpha and Vista

              Kevin,

              As I do not use Vista, I can't verify what will or will not work. Just took a look at MS's website and there was info there on how to try and get Visual Studio 2005 to work under Vista.

              http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa972193.aspx

              You might try these tricks and see if that helps you get past the problems you outlined above. Both of your problems appear to be the result of Vista not allowing anything to be written to the Program Files directory tree. If you alter the privileges for the Alpha Five directory, then you might just get things going. Understand that when you do this, you are lowering the new security model for Vista. This problem, however, is one of the biggest headaches in trying to get previous versions of software to work as the original programming model as used by MS and everyone else was to write to files in their directory under the Program Files tree.

              Don't know whether this will solve your problems but worth a try. As evidenced by all the other problems that still exist for MS Visual Studio after these changes, it may only solve a few problems.

              HTH
              Doug

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                #22
                Re: Alpha and Vista

                Originally posted by jmatienza View Post
                The fact is that Vista compatibility is not all that V8 is about. Far from it. If you look at the new features advertised on their web site, it does look like a major new release.
                I think that Jose Manuel Atienza makes a good point in the quote above.

                If Version 8 was only about Vista compability, then we would have felt uncomfortable with charging for it (even though it took a signficant development effort on our part.)

                The reality is that Version 8 is a very comprehensive upgrade that we are receiving excellent feedack on :

                Customer quotes: http://www.alphasoftware.com/AlphaFive/ProductTour/what_they_say_01.asp




                Alpha Five Blog http://www.alphasoftware.blogspot.com/




                Details of What is new in Version 8:
                Richard Rabins
                Co Chairman
                Alpha Software

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                  #23
                  Re: Alpha and Vista

                  I am currently running A5v6 on a network and now have a Vista laptop. If I upgrade the laptop to V8 will I still be able to copy the .dbf files backwards into V6. I don't want to change the entire system over just yet since I just finished training a new foreman but want to be able to use the new laptop. I don't need to rewrite anything in V8 yet but just be able to copy the .dbf file updated in 8 and use it in 6

                  Thanks

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                    #24
                    Re: Alpha and Vista

                    Is it possible to install v8 into a folder created on the root of c:\ instead of into program files? We first got our programs to run on XP using this technique. At least put the applications on the c drive.

                    Dave
                    Dave Mason
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                    Skype is dave.mason46

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