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    Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

    I am having issues with the filter feature when having more than one browse on a form. Based on the threads that I have read, it is my understanding that a filter has an effect on all the browses on a form, and there is no way to exclude a browse from the effect of another filter.

    Is this correct? (Please say no!)

    Kind regards
    George
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    Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

    Hi George,

    The answer to your question is yes and no since you are vague as to why you need this functionality. The main filter on a form does effect all browses, however, you can have additional filters on various embedded browses that provide additional filtering. This is done in the creation of your set linkage and the filters used within the links.

    For example: If you have customer master set and you are showing all customers on your form .... and on the form you set a search for a specific customer ... this would filter your form based on the customer selected. ALL embedded browses on that form will ONLY show records pertaining to the customer selected. This is the however part, which is what I am not sure you are looking for or not.

    Maybe this particular customer has multiple phone numbers in multiple states and I only want to display all the phone numbers in a particular state only for this customer. This would be what I would consider a 'sub-filter'. I am filtering further on the existing customer so that my browse only shows all the phone numbers for the state of 'CA' as an example which would be 3 phones and not all their locations in 10 other states. But that browse is still ONLY going to show the phone numbers from the parent filter which is the 'CUSTOMER'.

    If that is NOT what you are looking for, then you would need to give us details on what you are trying to display in the various browses and how your set structure is setup so that we can try to offer possible work arounds to allow you to get the needed results.

    Good luck
    Cheryl
    #1 Designs By Pagecrazy
    http://pagecrazy.com/

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      #3
      Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

      George, to supplement what Cheryl has said let me take you behind your form. Consider the structure of the set supporting your form. If there is only one instance of a given child table in the set, when you filter that child table it will affect all the objects in your form that display records from it. It's possible to put multiple browses on the form, all of which are based on the one instance of your table. Each browse might display different columns for example. But if the browse objects are bound to the one instance of your table when you filter that table all the displays are affected the same way. HTH, -- tom

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        Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

        Thanks for getting back to me guys, allthough it is NOT want I wanted to hear (hehe).

        Kind regards
        George

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          #5
          Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

          George,

          Let us know what you are trying to accomplish and it is quite possible somebody will be able to find a satisfactory work around for you :) You never know unless you try. We have found amazing work arounds to various browse issues over the years.

          Good luck

          (Not to mention that I am having a difficult time coming up with a scenario where I would need a browse to display different from the parent filter)
          Last edited by Cheryl Lemire; 10-14-2007, 12:34 PM. Reason: added info
          Cheryl
          #1 Designs By Pagecrazy
          http://pagecrazy.com/

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            Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

            George,

            If you are trying to have the same table in multiple browses sorted differently at the same time then you need to add that table multiple times in the set structure. This can only work for child tables as their can only be one parent.
            Tim Kiebert
            Eagle Creek Citrus
            A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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              Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

              Tim, what you say is correct, but perhaps a word of caution is warranted. Each instance of the table that's added to the table structure is live. Each browse object is bound to the underlying table. Personally, I've found it very difficult to use these arrangements in data entry forms. I'd be interested in hearing whether anyone out there actually recommends this approach for networked apps running over office local area networks. If so, I'd like to learn how to do it reliably.

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                Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

                Tom, You bring up a great point when mentioning 'data entry'. For me personally, I never allow users to have browses for data entry purposes. I have always forced them to load a separate form specifically designed for data entry only.

                I do have a client that is networked with approximately 4 internal users and 2-3 external remote users, They have several master set information forms where I have multiple tables in the set several times. These browses are used for displaying a multitude of data in many specific ways. However, the browses are READ ONLY designed for quick access information purposes only.

                This client has a fairly large sized db and for the purposes that the multiple master set forms have been designed, they do not have any difficulties.

                If I were to allow data entry within these forms, I can only imagine the disasters I would be fighting and the fires that would have to be put out.
                Cheryl
                #1 Designs By Pagecrazy
                http://pagecrazy.com/

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                  Re: Does a filter effect all the browses on a form?

                  Tom, Thanks for adding the word of caution. I should have done so also. I also do not use this structure as data entry. I have used multiple instances of a table where the table was only for linking in a many to many relationship and the form was showing different aspects of the relationship. As Cheryl mentioned, I use dedicated forms to do data entry.
                  Tim Kiebert
                  Eagle Creek Citrus
                  A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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