FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

[den1s]

Hi,

I have just started having problems with uploading files via Internal FTP. I have set the project settings with the relevant details and can sucessfully upload all tables and web components via FTP. However, when i attempt to publish web security files, in particular IMPORT USER INFORMATION FROM SERVER, i get the error;

"There are no web user files in the selected published location".

Can anyone advise me on what i could do to resolve this issue.

Thanks,

Denis

[den1s]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

Through trial and error, i think i may have pin pointed the problem. Has this got something to do with path Aliases e.g.

My data path alias is

[PathAlias.ADB_Path] = c:\Alpha\issues\mydata

Should I have a path alias for my security files???

Thanks

Denis

[NoeticCC]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

Through trial and error, i think i may have pin pointed the problem. Has this got something to do with path Aliases e.g.

My data path alias is

[PathAlias.ADB_Path] = c:\Alpha\issues\mydata

Should I have a path alias for my security files???

I never had to - not to say that it's not necessary mind you!

It does more sound like you haven't published the user data to the server in the first place, which you have to before you can start importing altered data. I have occasionally had to publish the data several times before it 'stuck' so to say though but not all the time.

[Steve Wood]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

You said "publish web security files" and then "IMPORT USER INFORMATION FROM SERVER". What do they have to do with each other? The first is one part of publishing your application to a server location, the later is a totally different deal, it's to import users and groups FROM the server to your development copy, typically to keep them in sync. The message means there are no web-security users tables on the server copy of your application, which means you have not (fully) published your application to the server.

Web security files take care of themselves, there is no need to create an alias to their location. They do not reside in the same place as your database files, they are published to the same location as your components and A5W pages.

To publish security files, you just check the Publish Web Security Data tables on the Publish dialog. You only do that once for a given project, or at least you don't do it after your application is operational and you might overwrite your online user tables.

[den1s]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

Thanks for the reply guys.

The problem is with IMPORT USER INFORMATION FROM SERVER and PUBLISH SECURITY FILES only. It has been published already and i can confirm that all files reside on the server. I then replaced my standard default FTP site with a multi user FTP site which is when i started getting the problem.

My biggest confusion is that I can publish everything (TBL's and WEB COMPONENTS) but not WEB SECURITY FILES via FTP. So there must be a seperate reference for WEB SECURITY FILES or ALPHA 5v8 does not like multi user FTP sites?

Perhaps Alpha can offer some input.

Thanks.

Denis

[JerryBrightbill]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

The process to publish any security files is exactly the same process as publishing any pages and their support files, such as images. If you publish from the publish dialog with a particular publish profile and the pages and images are published to the server, then the web security files will also publish, regardless of the process you use to transfer the files. The security files for the settings and page permissions publish automatically when any other file is published.

However, the web security data files must be published explicitly, as they do not automatically publish. Your error indicates these were not published. As Steve points out, they typically only require publishing once and they are NOT stored with other data files, but reside in the published project main folder.

To publish these, either check the box marked "Publish web security data files" on the publish dialog when you publish anything else, or publish from the "publish" option from the web security menu, being sure to use the same profile as used to publish the pages. The process simply copies the files in the local project folder to the published project folder.

[den1s]

Re: FTP Upload problem with Users and Groups

Jerry,

Thanks for your input.

I know this is very strange, but i will elaborate on the issue some more...

My standard setup within the Web Project Profiles is as follows;

THIS WORKS FINE WITH TABLE and WEB COMPONENT UPLOADS BUT NOT WITH IMPORT USER INFORMATION FROM SERVER.

Error Message:

"There are no web user files in the selected published location".

PUBLISH USING FTP:
FTP Address - 192.168.10.10
Username - myusername
Password - mypassword
Folder - \A5Webroot\myproject


THIS WORKS WITH IMPORT USER INFORMATION FROM SERVER (WEB SECURITY) DOWNLOADS

PUBLISH USING FTP:
FTP Address - 192.168.10.10
Username - myusername
Password - mypassword
Folder - \ALPHAUSER\A5Webroot\myproject

So you can see that i have had to add the FTP login user id name (ALPHAUSER) to get this to work. I just ran the test again.

If i upload tables and web components using the second option, it creates a new directory /ALPHAUSER in that location and places the uploaded files in there. So obviously I cannot do that either.

I now have two seperate profiles to get around this issue.

What do you think?

Denis