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    Has anybody seen this

    Open a form in V9. Go to a field to enter a new record (or change). As you type there is a slight delay before the character appears in the field.

    I have tried it on forms created in V8 - new table and form created in V9 and even V9's Alphasports.

    I don't have any problem like this in V8 or V7.

    Any ideas?

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    Default Re: Sluggish and delayed keystrokes

    Tom,

    Not seeing the problem.

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    Default Re: Sluggish and delayed keystrokes

    Tom, with vers 9 there are now so many options we're all going to have to learn to supply more information. Are these native A5 tables, or active links? If active links, what's the back end SQL engine?

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    Tom

    They are all native tables - they are part of my operations program that we use to run the wholesale carpet business. Their are a few quickbook passive link tables but I'm not testing those with V9. I have copied my development files to another folder and that is what I am using.

    However, I am seeing the same thing when I open v9 alphasports. I go to the customer form and add a record and when I go to type into a field there is a slight (very slight) but noticeable delay before the characters is placed in the field.

    I don't have that problem with the same app (different folder) with V8.

    I even created a new table and form in V9 and had the same problem. It could be the download that I have.

    I don't have the problem with anything else on my computer.

    This was one reason I asked the question about the system requirements for Platinum that Selwyn aswered.

    I guess I will have to delete the beta and download again from the website.

    Any help or guidance would be appreciated since it is becoming a problem in testing V9.

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    I can confirm the behavior you describe in Alpha sports, when adding a new customer. But, interestingly enough, in one of my own apps, developed in V7, in Clients I don't get the little pause - but in part numbers, the first character entered only pauses on one screen. After the first character, it doesn't.

    PS: On a hunch it is StyleSheet related, I made a new form for my clients table, and used the AlphaSports style sheet, and the pause was there. Try making a form using the default background, and see if that removes the pause.

    I would also report it to Selwyn/as a bug.
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    Martin

    Thank you for your response.

    I am in work now and don't have access to V9 Beta. I will try changing the stylesheet tonight when I get home.

    I'll report back as to what happens and then if necessary I will report it as a bug.

    Again thanks

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    XP Pro or Vista? It may be a OS problem. I see the same thing with V8 sometime and wrote it off to OS being busy in background.

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    Im running Xp media center edition Version 2002 SP2

    I tried Martin's suggestion to change the stylesheet in alphasports - but it was to no avail.

    I have no problem with v8 or v7 on this machine. Nor do I have a problem with any of the programs I am running on this machine.

    It if is an OS problem, you would think that it would surface at another point in another program.

    I even unistalled v9 and downloaded the beta again and reinstalled - same thing. If I create a form from scratch (new table etc) using default styles - it still get the same thing. There is a noticeable delay when typing into a field.


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    It must either be an OS issue or maybe a viurs, etc. screening issue.
    I'm using XP Pro SP2 with 3.2 processor and 3 gig ram

    I am getting the behavior in V9 Alpha Sports, in editing/entering a new client.

    I would report it as a bug.

    But I am not getting the behavior when entering/editing from a form created in V7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbaker View Post
    It if is an OS problem, you would think that it would surface at another point in another program. Tom

    One of the computers I use is 2003 server x64 and it has some problems with v8 in some development screens. Screen problems do not show up when using XP. I had turned in a bug report but I am guessing I am one of a very few that use 2003 server x64 so they have not cared to fix problem. V8 is the only program that has screen refresh problems so it can be a OS problem that Alpha has when run under some OS's.

    I have not seen the problem yet.

    What you might do is make a video of you typing and give Alpha the link to the video. You can download http://www.jingproject.com I had gotten link from Selwyn. Neat program. Can record video and screen shots of just what you want.

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    Hey everyone,

    I am running Dell 2 ghz, 250 gb hdd, 2 gb ram with Windows Vista Premium Edition and am having the same thing happen on a very small app that I had running great in version 8. I didn't 'open' the app in version 9, I reconstructed the exact same tables, field rules, forms, etc. My State table in a form has only 2 fields - Stabrv 2 character and StateName 20 character- has a slight delay in version 9, but runs like lightning in version 8.

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    Everyone

    Thanks for your responses.

    I have turned in a bug report and have been in contact with Selwyn.

    I also download a video (jing) for his to see what was happening.

    Evidently he cannot duplicate it.

    Martin - no viruses in my system (that was a good thought).

    I am at a loss since v8 and v7 run fast - v9 which is supposed to run fast is not for me.

    I did find that the sluggish keystrokes are only in entering or changing data in forms, browses and also in the genies. Typing while in the code editor or in interactive is fast and furious.

    With the posts here, I know I am not alone in what I am experiencing.

    I'm used to Alpha running perfectly (within reason) every time.

    Here is my Jing video if anyone is interested.

    http://screencast.com/t/kRm4RxYaz

    Tom

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    Default Re: Sluggish and delayed keystrokes

    I have similar issues with Google Mail in Internet Explorer occasionally (not other sites strangely enough, nor other apps, and I also did every virus scan under the sun - my machine is clean), e.g. getting a lag on keystrokes etc. Since A5 uses some parts of Internet Explorer, I am wondering if that might be related?

    My hunch is that it is to do with the new HTML Bubble Help - Google Mail uses a similar thing with popups and right-click menus, so I suspect this may be what is causing the lag?
    Last edited by NoeticCC; 03-14-2008 at 05:50 AM.

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    Default Re: Sluggish and delayed keystrokes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tbaker View Post
    Has anybody seen this
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    Works normally for me. Using Alphasports, it's smooth as silk.

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    Hey Everyone,

    I just tested all of my apps running in version 9 and all is well today.
    The only difference from yesterday is that I had IE 7 running in the background yesterday and had a fresh boot today without IE 7 running.

    Now I am back to that superduper speed in Alpha.

    Ted

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    Just wanted to keep everyone up to date.

    Alpha (Cian Chambliss) is trying to solve the problem.

    I will keep everyone posted on the outcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBerry View Post
    Hey Everyone,

    I just tested all of my apps running in version 9 and all is well today.
    The only difference from yesterday is that I had IE 7 running in the background yesterday and had a fresh boot today without IE 7 running.

    Now I am back to that superduper speed in Alpha.

    Ted
    As I said I suspect potentially the bubble help or some other part of V9 that uses IE is to "blame" for this...

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