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    Runtime License

    Maybe someone can point me in the right direction. A number of threads have referenced the v8 runtime license but I am not able to locate the v8 runtime (Enterprise Runtime Plus) on my system or online. I was, however able to locate the following.

    http://support.alphasoftware.com/alp...me_License.htm

    This site includes the following statements regarding the runtime and runtime licensing:

    Distributing Runtime Applications - Licensing Issues

    The number of users who can use your application concurrently on any network is based on the type of Runtime that you purchased. The people to whom you distribute the Alpha Five Runtime may not, in turn, distribute any copies of the Alpha Five Runtime. For example, if you purchased an "Unlimited 10-User Runtime", then a maximum of 10 users can use your application concurrently on any particular network. If you purchased an Unlimited User Runtime, then there are no limitations on the number of concurrent users of your application.

    How to Distribute a Runtime Application

    In order to distribute an application to another user, you must distribute a copy of your own application files, and a copy of the Alpha Five Runtime. You retain the copyright on your application files. Alpha Software retains the copyright on the Alpha Five Runtime files. You are free to make copies of the Alpha Five Runtime Installation Program (setup.exe) to distribute to your users. You can burn your own CDs with these files.
    I do not take the reference to "application" in this to mean that the developer can only create and distribute a single application per runtime license. It seems the point instead is just that you will need the appropriate runtime for the number of concurrent users.

    And it says very clearly that "In order to distribute an application to another user, you must distribute a copy of your own application files and a copy of the Alpha Five Runtime." This website also says you are "free to make copies of the Alpha Five Runtime Installation Program (setup.exe) to distribute to your users." It certainly does not seem that the intention was for the developer's customers to have to purchse additional runtime licenses.

    I guess this comes down to two questions.

    1. Can anyone point me to the actual runtime licensing agreement?

    2. On a related note, does anyone have any thoughts about what this agreement really means.

    There are a couple of reasons I believe this is important. First, if I am going to stay with v8 for now I would like to know what options are available to me within the terms of the licensing agreement. And second, if a revised version of the v9 runtime licensing agreement is proposed it seems it would be prudent to evaluate it relative to the existing licensing agreement for v8.

    Tom
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    Re: Runtime License

    Tom,

    Would suggest you go back and look at the other threads. The discussion of the conflict in the licensing mentioned in the document you posted and the manual has already been pointed out by Mike C. if I remember correctly. Richard has already said that they are re-evaluating things currently and to give them some time to properly look at the situation and make some decisions/changes. In this case, point 2 is somewhat a moot point until we hear back from Alpha.

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      Re: Runtime License

      Doug,

      My understanding is that they are reevaluating the licensing for v9. However, the actual license agreement for v8 should be available.

      As for your other point, I disagree in so much as I would think that the marker by which the license agreement for v9 would be judged would be the license agreement for v8. If it is not known what that is then it is not possible to determine if the new license agreement is more or less restrictive. And, on a related note, more or less costly.

      And yes, I have read all of the other threads. I really wanted to start a new thread specifically for the purpose of asking "where is the v8 runtime license agreement?"

      Tom

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        Re: Runtime License

        It has already been discussed that there is more than one document with differing wording of the runtime's license and its distribution. That too is part of all the v9 runtime discussion. So if Alpha changes the v9 licensing to be like what most of us believed it to be, then the v8 licensing will follow suit. Although, Alpha does have the right to change the licensing specs to whatever.

        I guess I was just trying to say that I believe that what you are pointing out is already out there and with all the "noise" of the discussion going on that it would be best that only new ideas were added to the discussion otherwise it will all start to become fuzzy in most peoples minds.

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