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V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

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    #16
    Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

    Duncan - you indicated in an earlier post

    I wish to give my client a one off of the market research information I have provided for him so that he can manipulate it to his heart's content with all the reports, forms, and queries that I have developed

    If I understand this correctly - the DATA you have created is of value and the ability for your client to manipulate the data "to his heart's content with all the reports, forms, and queries that I have developed" is of value.

    When you say that the cost of the 1 user runtime ($399) is high in your case for the value that it offers your client over Excel, I accept your judgement (since only you are privvy to the specific facts.) However I dont know if noticed that under the promo that we are running - there is a marginal cost of only $100 for 1 user runtime when purchased as part of the Alpha Five v9 platinum+ 1 User runtime bundle which costs a total of $399 which represents a premium of only $100 over Alpha v9 platinum by itself which is $299.

    Btw we have intentionally created this bundle to offer a truly compelling bundle during this promotion

    I hope this is useful
    Richard Rabins
    Co Chairman
    Alpha Software

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      #17
      Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

      Originally posted by DaveM View Post
      Richard,

      Complements and a well done! You and your team really listen very well and you structured it nicely so evryone can figure out what they need and get only what they need at the most affordable price with the flexibilty to add later. My hat is off.

      I will put my money where my mouth is and make a purchase within 72 hours for v9. Yes I needed it and wanted so much to bring my biggest app up to v9. I have been improving it since about '94.

      I have never seen a compny of any kind listen so well and make the effort to understand their customers concerns. It is a pleasure to be a very small part of such a big and wonderful community as the alpha family of users.
      Thank you Dave for your very kind comments. As I have said over the last few days, we recognize that Alpha Five is more than just a product, it is a community of some very smart, creative, dedicated people who have a vision for products that they want to build, clients they want to serve and companies that they want to make more successful.


      Thank you.
      Richard Rabins
      Co Chairman
      Alpha Software

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        #18
        Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

        However I dont know if noticed that under the promo that we are running - there is a marginal cost of only $100 for 1 user runtime when purchased as part of the Alpha Five v9 platinum+ 1 User runtime bundle which costs a total of $399 which represents a premium of only $100 over Alpha v9 platinum by itself which is $299.

        Btw we have intentionally created this bundle to offer a truly compelling bundle during this promotion

        I hope this is useful[/QUOTE]

        Yes, I saw that ... hence back to my original post about being "confused". How can I use this "bundle" (with the runtime), since by the terms of the runtime licence, everytime I create a "custom app" (in this case accessibilty for my client to access the data) I must have him buy a licence for $399. Are you saying that my purchase of the runtime (for $100) gives me the right to let my client buy a runtime for $399 instead of his buying the full version (also for $399) which he could use to access the data anyway?

        One of us is still missing something here.

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          #19
          Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

          Again the Alpha team has shown why I consider them to be AWESOME!
          Great company, great products, great support.

          I have found a home with Alpha. I bought it, am using it, and making
          money with it. What more can you ask for?


          Ted Berry
          TLBerry Enterprises

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            #20
            Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

            Duncan - just email me with your phone number and we should be able to clear up any confusion.

            Thanks
            [email protected]
            Richard Rabins
            Co Chairman
            Alpha Software

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              #21
              Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

              ... will do

              Thanks

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                #22
                Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                Not to add more confusion to the runtime issue, but I have a question.

                Can an application be developed where some people need to have the sql active links and others don't?

                Then could they buy a 3 seat runtime w/active links and a 10 user runtime w/o active links and use it on the same app and network?

                The reason I ask is I have an application that I would like to update a security SQL database for the badging stations but the other users have no need to have active links for this purpose and are just using dbf data.

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                  #23
                  Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                  Originally posted by sicomputerguy View Post
                  Not to add more confusion to the runtime issue, but I have a question.

                  Can an application be developed where some people need to have the sql active links and others don't?

                  Then could they buy a 3 seat runtime w/active links and a 10 user runtime w/o active links and use it on the same app and network?

                  The reason I ask is I have an application that I would like to update a security SQL database for the badging stations but the other users have no need to have active links for this purpose and are just using dbf data.
                  Sure, as far as I'm aware the per seat RT Engines work completely independently from any other installations of an application, basically you could have one build of the app with active link tables, but users in a different group get a passive link version of the same tables.... Both can access the same SQL database, but only one group/type can edit that data directly through forms etc.

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                    #24
                    Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                    yes, that will be fine.

                    the people who are running the runtime won't be able to open the active-link tables, but the people who are using the run engine will be able to open the active-link tables.
                    Richard Rabins
                    Co Chairman
                    Alpha Software

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                      #25
                      Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                      Richard,

                      That is awesome.

                      Thanks,
                      Pat

                      PS. I placed my order for the upgrade today.

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                        #26
                        Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                        I have been following this whole topic of licencing and must say that I think Alpha has now put a very good solution in place.
                        A developer can now offer a range of solutions and so compete in any market.
                        Whilst I have not done a whole lot with Platinum, my initial impressions are that the new functionality is very exciting as it enables developers to do things that will surprise many clients.
                        Well done to everyone at Alpha.
                        Garry

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                          #27
                          Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                          Originally posted by DSG View Post
                          However I dont know if noticed that under the promo that we are running - there is a marginal cost of only $100 for 1 user runtime when purchased as part of the Alpha Five v9 platinum+ 1 User runtime bundle which costs a total of $399 which represents a premium of only $100 over Alpha v9 platinum by itself which is $299.

                          Btw we have intentionally created this bundle to offer a truly compelling bundle during this promotion

                          I hope this is useful
                          Yes, I saw that ... hence back to my original post about being "confused". How can I use this "bundle" (with the runtime), since by the terms of the runtime licence, everytime I create a "custom app" (in this case accessibilty for my client to access the data) I must have him buy a licence for $399. Are you saying that my purchase of the runtime (for $100) gives me the right to let my client buy a runtime for $399 instead of his buying the full version (also for $399) which he could use to access the data anyway?

                          One of us is still missing something here.
                          Why doesn't your client just buy the full program? After that the "data" you send him can be accessed and manipulated as you see fit. Or, do you not want them to have that full access? Do you want to restrict them by way of the runtime?

                          Sean
                          Last edited by seaken64; 03-29-2008, 11:25 AM. Reason: Edited html quote

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                            #28
                            Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                            Sean;
                            Well, that was sort of my point ... the client would be "better off" buying the full programme, even though it would be way beyond his needs. But that is rather moot, as the reality is his company would not let him buy A5 (at least not let him load it on his PC). The client company's policy is for any software to be loaded on a PC must be "approved". So that means the data I provide him must be in MS Access or more likely in MS Excel (which is what I currently deliver). My thought had been to put a Runtime on a U3 USB thumb drive, so it would never be "installed" on his PC, but at $399 for each time, it doesn't make financial sense.

                            I have since spoken with Richard, explained this in more detail, and he's putting his thinking cap on.

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                              #29
                              Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                              Originally posted by DSG View Post
                              Yes, I saw that ... hence back to my original post about being "confused". How can I use this "bundle" (with the runtime), since by the terms of the runtime licence, everytime I create a "custom app" (in this case accessibilty for my client to access the data) I must have him buy a licence for $399.
                              If your client only needs one seat they'd get a per seat RT engine surely?

                              They'd only need the $399 single user RT license if many users had to access the same app from different workstations, just only one user at a time.

                              Or for a developer selling single user apps to multiple organisations.
                              Last edited by NoeticCC; 03-29-2008, 12:31 PM.

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                                #30
                                Re: V8 "style" RunTimes introduced for Alpha Five v9 PLATINUM

                                Andrea, I don't know if this is what they had in mind, but if you don't buy a runtime or run engine license it's difficult to test your multi-user application on your own network, unless you buy multiple licenses for the full version of course.

                                -- tom

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