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    Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

    Hi everyone,

    First let me state that I'm new to Alpha 5 and could not find the following in Alpha's Help System. I set up passwords on certain buttons such as launching an Administrative Menu. I've set the password via the Properities of that button.

    Is ther a way I can set up another button on a password/change form so a user in a run-time environment can change these various passwords in other buttons whenever he deems it necessary?

    Hope this is clear to all.
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    #2
    Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

    Hello, Rudy.

    No, the password you embed in the properties of the button object can't be changed by the runtime user or administrator. The runtime engine will not permit design changes to the form. The button lives in the form, so it can't be changed.

    There are a number of ways people solve this design issue. Since you mention needing to be able to change numbers of passwords on numbers of buttons, perhaps its time to get acquainted with the built in security system. There you define users and groups. YOu put users in groups. The security system requires the user to log in when they open the database. This means the user_name can be retrieved by any script you write. The user_name can be used to determine what groups a user belongs to, by any script you write. Your button script could check to see if the current user belongs to a group that's authorized to use the button. The Runtime Administrator can change passwords and reassign folks to different groups. If you want to see how this might work build a simple database, enter a few dummy records, define your security settings for a couple of imaginary users, build a form that has a button on it and then zip the entire database and post it here. Tell us the Admninstrator password, the name of the form you've built, and which group you want to be able to run the button script. We can then download your sample, modify your button script and you'll have a working example that can be used with other buttons in your app.

    -- tom

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      #3
      Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

      Hey Tom,

      Just set up 3 groups. One Group is BrowseOnly, one is Administrators and the last is AllowReports.

      I will try and figure out the script behind the button to check if the user logged in is a member of the Administrators and if so, open the admin form.

      Rudy

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        #4
        Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

        tip:

        User_groups() will return a list of groups the current user belongs to.

        is_one_of() can be used to determine if a particular group is in the list

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          #5
          Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

          It's me again,
          I created a db with a main menu and client form.
          There are 2 users set up.
          1) Tim pw is yes member of administrators Group
          2) Rudy pw is no member of Browse Only Group

          When the Administrator Menu button is pressed I want to check if the user logged in is a member of the administrators group and if so open the client form.

          I used a backup database command but how can I get it to you so you can set up the button script?

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            #6
            Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

            Rudy, slow down, you're movin' too fast.

            Check post#2 in this thread. Read the PS. Zip your database and attach it to a reply here

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              #7
              Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

              Here it is Tom.

              There are 2 users set up.
              1) Tim pw is yes member of administrators Group
              2) Rudy pw is no member of Browse Only Group

              When the Administrator Menu button is pressed I want to check if the user logged in is a member of the administrators group and if so open the client form.
              Attached Files

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                #8
                Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                Rudy
                Here is an Example
                see attached zip file

                Unzip
                it will create a folder called login

                Charlie Crimmel

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                  #9
                  Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                  added the scriptds to make the sample calendar work

                  Charlie crimmel

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                    #10
                    Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                    Rudy, I've modified your button's onPush event script. It contains two actions:

                    a) a message box is displayed if the user doesn't belong to Administrators group
                    b) the second form is opened if the user does belong to Administrators group

                    Both are accomplished by making the actions conditional.

                    Let me know if you have questions.

                    Suggest you unzip this to an empty folder on your machine.

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                      #11
                      Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                      Originally posted by crimmelcp View Post
                      Rudy
                      Here is an Example
                      see attached zip file

                      Unzip
                      it will create a folder called login

                      Charlie Crimmel
                      And the password is....?

                      Nevermind I found it - use the lastname. Ctrl-Shift on load will take you to the controlpanel.

                      There are 2 users set up.
                      1) Tim pw is yes member of administrators Group
                      2) Rudy pw is no member of Browse Only Group
                      Well that didn't work for Tom's example! What is the password for that "yes" or "no"? Oops Tim or Rudy is the password. You guys are making this hard for me!
                      Last edited by MoGrace; 04-25-2008, 12:31 PM.
                      Robin

                      Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                        #12
                        Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                        Ok Tom I have a question: How did you do that? There are only 2 tables and no records and no scripts - where did the login come from?

                        I opened the database in ver 7, apparently there is something there I cannot see.
                        Last edited by MoGrace; 04-25-2008, 12:38 PM.
                        Robin

                        Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                          #13
                          Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                          Robin,
                          Go the the top menu bar, choose tools, choose Security, then choose Define Users and Groups
                          Mike
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                            #14
                            Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                            Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                            Robin,
                            Go the the top menu bar, choose tools, choose Security, then choose Define Users and Groups
                            HAH! the one place I hadn't looked of course! I had seen it before but when I don't know how to do something I tend to forget about it. Now that I have a couple of good examples, perhaps I can use this feature.
                            Robin

                            Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                              #15
                              Re: Change Button Password from Another Button on Another Form

                              Have used ui_getPassword() on button or hotspot onPush events with great success. The variable "password" is set through an apps settings table value which is populated by the autoexec script.
                              �There is nothing like a dream to create the future.�
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