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    #16
    Re: a5controls.dll does not register

    FWIW,
    Even though I had the newest version, I downloaded the newest patch from the website again and installed it. I still have the error.

    I'm concerned about continuing to develop with this error. Can it cause something I do to become "corrupt"?

    Bill Belanger

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      #17
      Re: a5controls.dll does not register

      you can try this. It seems to work for me and xp sp2

      Code:
      ' substitute your own paths.
      regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\a5controls.dll /s
      regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\A5ContextEval.dll /s
      regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\SimpleChart4Lite.dll /s
      regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\Codejock.PropertyGrid.v9.81.ocx /s
      It may not be a cure all, but has cured all my problems.

      If you install as something other than admin, you can have a problem. One machine ran with an error everytime it started for a year. It never corrupted anything. When the user was finally ready for someone else to "touch" his machine, we ran the above code(bat file) and it took care of the error messages.

      Windows and windows with certain other programs running can cause an error when properly registering these files when alpha is installed.

      .
      Dave Mason
      [email protected]
      Skype is dave.mason46

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        #18
        Re: a5controls.dll does not register

        Bill,
        I downloaded the newest patch from the website again and installed it.
        But I would think that it is very possible that Alpha only registers the missing/corrupted files you have when a full version is installed and not with every patch produced.

        I believe that both Selwyn and you are correct BTW...but are looking at it from two different points of view. The issue was identified and I believe the "patch" has been incorporated into the full version install of Alpha. But you and other unlucky souls who end up getting / creating / catching this issue are most likely looking for a preventative measure and not the cure (but hey take the cure provided for now to get back on track... :) yes pun intended!). What causes this issue may very well not have anything to do with Alpha at all and until it is shown that it is, it can't be fixed of course...well, maybe sometime when someone inadvertantly stumbles upon the cause as it really does appear fairly random (especially considering how far back this has been occurring).

        Just my two cents...
        Mike
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          #19
          Re: a5controls.dll does not register

          Thanks Mike. Since this issue dates back to at least 2005, I would think that the "patches" that Alpha distributes could go to the registry and check to see if these .dll files are installed. If files="installed", don't give the guy who just paid a $grand for your program a message, else install these files.

          Bill Belanger

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            #20
            Re: a5controls.dll does not register

            Bill, Mike,

            I have not had this happen on the full version, but popped up on the RT a few times. Exact cause has never been established, but believe it is because the user was not an admin(just not sure).

            I have since used astrum to register the files. That has failed before too(rarely), so I include a bat file with the program to do it. If a user calls me with that error, they have a button to push in the application that runs the bat file.

            I am not blaming Alpha since i think of it as a Windows issue. We also had this problem with VB.



            .
            Dave Mason
            [email protected]
            Skype is dave.mason46

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              #21
              Re: a5controls.dll does not register

              It seems I've had this issue with every version since V5, and yes I've paid plenty for every upgrade. I just wonder, if it's a matter of registering" some .dll stuff, (sorry, I'm a Mac man at heart) why wouldn't Alpha register them with every patch? Is that too difficult, or too easy?

              Bill Belanger

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                #22
                Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                I re-installed V9. I no longer get the message.

                Bill Belanger

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                  #23
                  Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                  Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                  Ken,

                  The following code is in a correct.bat file(written for a v7 app). On deploying my app, it is run after the install to register the controls. This seems to cover them all. I have since changed to astrum installer and can do the registration without this bat file. I still include it in case I get the error on startup.



                  Code:
                  'change the path to match your alpha install!
                   
                  regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\a5controls.dll /s
                  regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\A5ContextEval.dll /s
                  regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\SimpleChart4Lite.dll /s
                  regsvr32.exe c:\ups55\Codejock.PropertyGrid.v9.81.ocx /s
                  Like Selwin said, UAC must be turned off. Another tidbit: Vista will sometimes bug you to death about turning it off, but there is a way to turn off the reminders too. Make sure you have admin rights including rights to the registry for the registration to work.
                  Dave,

                  Is the correct.bat file a windows file run after the install from within Alpha or is it an Alpha script run from within Alpha? I assume it is a windows file. Thanks.

                  Kind regards,
                  Gordon

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                    #24
                    Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                    Dave,

                    Thanks, I have used your example to create a .bat file to register the relevant controls and this works great for us. However, I do not want our customers to see the error message and have to manually execute this .bat file.

                    If I run the .bat file from the autoexec this is no good because the error appears while loading the runtime engine before it even gets to my autoexec. I need to find a way of registering the controls during install (using Astrum), does anybody know how?

                    Also what does 'registering' actually imply? Is it adding something to the registry? What is regsvr32.exe actually doing to 'register' these files?

                    Michael

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                      #25
                      Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                      Originally posted by Michael Humby View Post
                      Also what does 'registering' actually imply? Is it adding something to the registry? What is regsvr32.exe actually doing to 'register' these files?

                      Michael
                      Googled this.

                      Most programs use some form of library files to hold common routines used by multiple parts of the program. These files typically have the extension .DLL or .OCX and are distributed with programs that need them.

                      When a program installs a library (DLL or OCX) file the program's install routine will typically "register" the file with the system. This process tells the system the libraries in the file are available for more than one program to use. (Some DLL or OCX files are self-registering.)
                      There can be only one.

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                        #26
                        Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                        Hi Stan,

                        Thanks, this is becoming clearer now.

                        The built in Alpha installmaker does somehow register these files and what I need to know is how to achieve the same result using a third party install maker. I can do this using a .bat file but this is not satisfactory since the error messages have already been seen by my clients before before running the batch file.

                        The advice from Selwyn if using a third party installmaker is to register these controls, but how does Alpha achieve this, I don't think they use .bat files.

                        I have been finding it difficult to create clean V9 error free installs, never any problems with V4.5

                        Michael

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                          #27
                          Re: a5controls.dll does not register

                          Since this thread was recently referenced I thought I would answer this question for anyone new. See attached screenshot also.

                          I need to find a way of registering the controls during install (using Astrum), does anybody know how?
                          The answer was actually buried in a previous post.
                          Originally posted by rmssoftware View Post
                          I started using Astrum Installer seberal years ago and it works better than most and is easy to use. I use the Advanced button to mark each file that needs to be registered as both registered and shared. Other files like fonts for bar codes that I install in the Windows\Fonts folder I mark as shared. This works great for registering the controls. Then click on the Icon and select Run as Administrator
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