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    V8 Updates

    Can one assume that Alpha V8 is now bug free as no updates have been offered for some time now or is it that V9 is out and V8 is a part of history.

    From the update web page:
    "The current Alpha Five Version 8 build is 1980_3163 (released on 27 MAR 2008 10:22 AM)"


    Murray

    #2
    Re: V8 Updates

    Originally posted by rolstra View Post
    Hi,

    anything new concerning (overdue) patches for Version 8??

    The current Alpha Five Version 8 build is 1980_3163 (released on 27 MAR 2008 10:22 AM).

    Thanks,
    Roland.
    I see this has been asked before but seems to be getting ignored by Alpha.
    So come on guys whats the story here?

    Murray

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      #3
      Re: V8 Updates

      Originally posted by MoGrace View Post
      Well it really doesn't matter (anymore) whether it works "right" or not, since we are dealing with a defunct version! I sent my first bug report on a ver 7 issue just the other day and Selwyn himself said there are no further updates planned for ver 7 or ver 8. Which really doesn't seem right since they just sold this ver to me less that 6 months ago... One would expect support to continue for at least a little while.
      Also found this statement in another thread regarding the "no futher updates planned for ver 7 or ver 8".

      Any official statements to be announced here from Aplha?

      Murray

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        #4
        Re: V8 Updates

        I can see where some of the confusion comes from. The email said they were would continue to sell V8 and V9 side by side, which while not stating so implied they would be supporting V8. What does a developer do that purchased multiple V8 and sold applications, then has to tell customer they are out of luck and have to upgrade because the V8 is not supported to fix the problem they are having. It would have solved a lot of questions if they stated in email support for V8 would be stopped. I had V6 with issue that wasn't fixed, lived with it. Tried V7, my application did not run properly. Tried V8, it worked, issue in V6 was fixed. Now I will wait till V10 comes out and purchase unsupported V9 at bargain like they did with V8/V9.

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          #5
          Re: V8 Updates

          As I had stated in another post I had submitted a bug that was showing up in v8 & v9. Got an emailing saying they have fixed in V9, which I had verified.

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            #6
            Re: V8 Updates

            Unlike in the past (where we stopped selling the previous version when a new version shipped), we're going to continue to offer Alpha Five Version 8 for the foreseeable future because of its excellent capabilities.
            Just went to their web site and when you click on the "Store" menu they are only listing ALPHA FIVE VERSION 9 for sale.

            Sounds like the foreseeable future is here and Version 8 does not seem to be supported with fixes or being marketed for sale.
            Jeff Ryder

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              #7
              Re: V8 Updates

              If you go to the Alpha web site and click on store, it does only show Version Nine - however, if you click on the Alpha Five on the left hand menu it will bring up version 8 or your can use this

              (removed broken link)

              BUT, I think it is a foregone conclusion that Version 8 is no longer supported and also the fact that no one from Alpha has tried to state otherwise in the several threads on the same subject.

              Tom Baker
              Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:44 PM. Reason: (removed broken link)

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                #8
                Re: V8 Updates

                Think about this.

                If a car dealer did not fix the faults in your new car as they become evident, You would scream bloody murder. If a 3 year old car comes into out dealership with a fault that became evident last week. We fix it! Period. The manufacturer is billed for the repair.

                Is that good business? Yes, because we have a satisfied customer who will likely purchase again.

                i have evn see a car with 74000 miles(warranty was 36x36) repaired for free and it was not a known defect. It just wore out a part that should not have worn out.

                If I had quit supporting my dos stuff the day I started doing something else, I would not get much business from the client later.

                Maybe we should be more careful in our purchases? It does not affect me whether they update V8 or not because I have V9, but there have been times in the past where I mighta got "REDNECK" mad.

                Bottom line is they should repair the broken stuff in V8 for a year or so after stopping the sales. Some stuff does not immediately raise it's ugly head.

                There are still things in V7 that are not done.



                .
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  #9
                  Re: V8 Updates

                  Correct me if I am wrong, but even Microsoft still services the OS's they stop selling for some time after.

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                    #10
                    Re: V8 Updates

                    Jack,

                    Do you mean like XP and win 2000 sp3??

                    or

                    Do you mean the updates to ms Office 2003 so it could run in Vista??

                    .
                    Last edited by DaveM; 06-09-2008, 04:55 PM.
                    Dave Mason
                    [email protected]
                    Skype is dave.mason46

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                      #11
                      Re: V8 Updates

                      Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                      Jack,
                      Do you mean like XP and win 2000 sp3??
                      or
                      Do you mean the updates to ms Office so it could run in Vista??
                      .
                      When XP came out and they had stopped selling Windows 98, they still fixed problems to Windows98 even when they were not selling it. ????

                      I do not know but I am guessing they told you to buy a new version if you wanted to use MS Offfice on Vista. Was that a good guess? We are not wanting to use V8 on some new OS, just the one it was designed for with bugs fixed.

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                        #12
                        Re: V8 Updates

                        office a suggested upgrade, but there were fixes to it and Vista so you could run older versions on Vista.

                        I have Vista and Office 2003 on and I also run A5V7 on here. Only problem I have had is seeing the body of an email template so far in V7. OOPs, I can see that too.


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                        Dave Mason
                        [email protected]
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #13
                          Re: V8 Updates

                          Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                          Think about this.


                          ....... Maybe we should be more careful in our purchases? It does not affect me whether they update V8 or not because I have V9, but there have been times in the past where I mighta got "REDNECK" mad.

                          Bottom line is they should repair the broken stuff in V8 for a year or so after stopping the sales. Some stuff does not immediately raise it's ugly head.

                          There are still things in V7 that are not done.

                          .

                          If some are saying there are still bugs in V7 and also V8 then chances are that V9 will suffer the same fate when V10 arrives. There seems to be a pattern here!!

                          Murray

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                            #14
                            Re: V8 Updates

                            In a slight defense of Alpha, if a bug report is not submitted then something may or may not get fixed. I have just posted a prime example of this a few minutes ago where a problem was found but as far as known no bug report filed....so most likely the bug will persist as you have stated and is not, in this case, a fault of Alpha. There are still a lot of bugs in version 8 and more surfacing ---and yes when a problem in a later version is noticed many people, including myself, will check whatever version they are on to see it it exists. Many times it does and so a new bug will be discovered in a prior version in this way.

                            I think more people should be on top of this (involvement) and, of course, ANY problem should be verified as a bug and then reported. By "more people" I also include the Alpha staff as there is no way it can be expected to use the customer to discover all the little bugs....it sure seems like once the version is released that this is what is expected...but could be wrong.

                            My main point is that bugs are not always reported...or reported properly ( a small search would give you an idea of how to report one the best way)

                            Rant over!! :)
                            Mike
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                              #15
                              Re: V8 Updates

                              Originally posted by MCBrown View Post
                              If some are saying there are still bugs in V7 and also V8 then chances are that V9 will suffer the same fate when V10 arrives. There seems to be a pattern here!!
                              Yes. The pattern goes way back. I suppose it qualifies as an unwritten policy. Whenever a new version comes out, there no longer are upgrades for the previous version. In this case, however, as they are still selling v8, you think they would support it.

                              Caveat emptor!
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                              [email protected]
                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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