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    #31
    Re: New Licensing Questions

    Richard,

    That is great news, well done.

    Please keep me informed as to how and when this will be rolled out.

    I am at this time in communication with the University of Westminster, Business School.

    Recently I helped a student from Imperial College London, she had bought A5V9 to help get their project completed before the end of her semester. She was up against the deadline.
    Regards
    Keith Hubert
    Alpha Guild Member
    London.
    KHDB Management Systems
    Skype = keith.hubert


    For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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      #32
      Re: New Licensing Questions

      "The people to whom you distribute your application do not need to have Alpha Five installed. (It's also ideal for creating demo or trial versions of your commercial software.)"

      does anyone know what DOES get installed, or how this works, and can you use the control for number of users?

      thanks,
      John Lemisch

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        #33
        Re: New Licensing Questions

        Hello to all,

        I am very confused about Runtimes and licenses of distribution from Alpha Five. I am a 64-year-old pensioner, and I create data bases for my pleasure and my health (I'm creating a database which contains the nourishing values of more than 5 000 foods).

        If I wish to share free of charge my data bases with friends who have not Alpha Five, who know nothing in the creation of database and who have no interest to learn it, does I have to buy at first a $699 Runtime to be able to do it. My incomes as pensioner are rather weak and 699 $ represent for me a big sum of money. Please reassure me.

        Jean-Leo

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          #34
          Re: New Licensing Questions

          Jean-Leo,

          I would check pricing and call alpha sales. I believe they have a single user runtime that could be a lot less money for your kind of use. That was spoken of earlier in this thread.

          I do not know current pricing and there may be a special pricing I am not aware of.


          .
          Dave Mason
          [email protected]
          Skype is dave.mason46

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            #35
            Re: New Licensing Questions

            Somehow I had not connected that this was for run engines as well. That IS great!

            Bill.

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              #36
              Re: New Licensing Questions

              Hello to all,

              I am very confused about Runtimes and licenses of distribution from Alpha Five. I am a 64-year-old pensioner, and I create data bases for my pleasure and my health (I'm creating a database which contains the nourishing values of more than 5 000 foods).

              If I wish to share free of charge my data bases with friends who have not Alpha Five, who know nothing in the creation of database and who have no interest to learn it, does I have to buy at first a $699 Runtime to be able to do it. My incomes as pensioner are rather weak and 699 $ represent for me a big sum of money. Please reassure me.

              Jean-Leo

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                #37
                Re: New Licensing Questions

                Thank you very much Dave for the answer. Do I will have to buy a Runtime for every copy of my database which I give to my friends?

                Jean-Leo

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                  #38
                  Re: New Licensing Questions

                  Originally posted by John Lemisch View Post
                  "...do not need to have Alpha Five installed. ..."

                  does anyone know what DOES get installed, or how this works, and can you use the control for number of users?
                  I think what they mean is that the end user does not have to own an RT. But obviously, you the developer, are providing the user with an RT along w. your application - which the end-user must then install.
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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                    #39
                    Re: New Licensing Questions

                    Hi Jean-Leo,

                    No you not need to buy a separate runtime for each of your friends. You can buy a single user runtime and distribute your application to your friends with that.

                    The information regarding runtime is quite clear on that.
                    Regards
                    Keith Hubert
                    Alpha Guild Member
                    London.
                    KHDB Management Systems
                    Skype = keith.hubert


                    For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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                      #40
                      Re: New Licensing Questions

                      I can't believe that Bill, Richard, and me were all up "Alphaing" at 3:30 AM!!!

                      OK - if I read this correctly, this replaces the original "run engine" distinction, where you were buying seats, etc. I checked with Theresa, and if her info was correct, for 295 I can upgrade my 20 user regular runtime to I guess the platinum/runengine - so I can do anything with it that I could have done had I originally bought the "run engine" version. I have the V9 Platinum development version, so I guess I'm ok, there.

                      It sounds like I also would no longer be limited to 20 users, too?

                      Sorry, if I'm wrong about this, but have pity on Jack Benny 'n me - we both turned 39 a few months ago.
                      Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
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                        #41
                        Re: New Licensing Questions

                        Richard,

                        I applaud your venture with a University. May I suggest many MANY Universities and colleges. Do whatever it takes.

                        Can you imagine a hundred thousand students graduating in a couple years armed with alpha and the strentgh of conviction that only comes with youth and landing in the corporate world. And the next year more and the next year more.

                        I agree with keith, give it to them with a token price. What does Microsoft charge the schools for access??? How about the students??? Surely there is a plan about this


                        .
                        Dave Mason
                        [email protected]
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #42
                          Re: New Licensing Questions

                          Anyone remember when IBM virtually gave away their clocks free (was in the 50's I think.) Everywhere you went you saw the name IBM.
                          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
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                            #43
                            Re: New Licensing Questions

                            Originally posted by martinwcole View Post
                            Anyone remember when IBM virtually gave away their clocks free (was in the 50's I think.) Everywhere you went you saw the name IBM.
                            That would be prior to the memory of those who have just turned 39.... ;)
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                              #44
                              Re: New Licensing Questions

                              Thank you Peter and Keith for your knowledge.

                              Keith, you told me that I can distribute my application to all my friends with only a single user runtime. If that is the case, then can you tell me the difference between:

                              1 - a single user runtime at 499 $;
                              (broken link removed)​

                              and :

                              2 - an unlimited distribution license at $699
                              (I read this in a Newsletter from Alpha Software "Alpha Five V9 August Specials")

                              Jean-Leo
                              Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 05-23-2023, 10:01 AM. Reason: broken link removed

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                                #45
                                Re: New Licensing Questions

                                Hi Jean-Leo,

                                Here is the text from the Runtime Licence, conditions of use.
                                Packaged Applications
                                Definition: A "packaged" (i.e. off-the-shelf) application is an application that is sold either entirely, or largely "as is" to multiple customers.

                                The Runtime program may be freely distributed with a "packaged" application.

                                Example: A developer creates a product called "ABC Dry Cleaner Manager" aimed at dry cleaners. The developer wishes to sell this application "as is", or largely "as is" to multiple dry cleaners.

                                The developer purchases a Runtime license and now has the right to distribute his application along with the Alpha Five Runtime to an unlimited number of dry cleaners. Each customer (i.e. dry cleaning establishment) can install the Alpha Five Runtime on an unlimited number of machines within their organization. The number of users within each dry cleaning establishment who can concurrently use the application is limited by the type of Runtime license that the developer purchased. For example, if the developer purchased a 3-user Runtime license, then a maximum of 3 users within any organization can use the application at once.

                                Note: The developer might have his own license scheme that limits the number of users to less than this maximum.

                                Later, this developer creates a new "packaged" product called "XYZ Auto Repair Shop Manager" that is aimed at Auto Repair Shops. The developer can use his existing Runtime license to distribute the Alpha Runtime along with his "packaged" application to an unlimited number of Auto Repair Shops.

                                The key point in this example is that each organization into which the developer sells his "packaged" application is not required to purchase their own Runtime license. There is no limit on the number of "packaged" applications that the Developer can create using his Runtime license.
                                I dont make the rules or the prices. I just use the software because its' good.
                                Regards
                                Keith Hubert
                                Alpha Guild Member
                                London.
                                KHDB Management Systems
                                Skype = keith.hubert


                                For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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