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    Server Security

    Hi All,

    How do I lock down an application that I have uploaded to the server, to prevent anyone else who has access to the server from ripping off my application?
    Regards
    Keith Hubert
    Alpha Guild Member
    London.
    KHDB Management Systems
    Skype = keith.hubert


    For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

    #2
    Re: Server Security

    Here is one suggestion.

    On the index.a5w page, have it look for a file that you placed in some folder of your server. Only if that file exists, will you allow the user to log in; if the file is not found, then you display a page with a message of the sort: "This is an illegal copy of the software!" If someone were to "steal" your application, they wouldn't know about the file you placed in that certain folder, and they certainly wouldn't know it's name. Thus, they could "steal" your program but it wouldn't work. Of course, a programmer could read your code, but this would be a deterrent to the average user.

    Gary
    Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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      #3
      Re: Server Security

      Keith, which particular files / types do you wish to protect?
      What type of access do you wish to protect them from ? Http, FTP, Telnet?
      What priviledges do you have above others on your server?

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        #4
        Re: Server Security

        By "uploaded" do you mean published? If so, there is nothing to steal. Can you steal the web application found at www.adobe.com? No, same with an Alpha application. It's just HTML, there is nothing they can take except the rendered HTML, no components, no xbasic, no tables.
        Steve Wood
        See my profile on IADN

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          #5
          Re: Server Security

          Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
          By "uploaded" do you mean published? If so, there is nothing to steal. Can you steal the web application found at www.adobe.com? No, same with an Alpha application. It's just HTML, there is nothing they can take except the rendered HTML, no components, no xbasic, no tables.
          I think he means protect from someone who has access to the server (physically)? In which case maybe the web root could run in the admin user's doc/root folder so other users cannot access them.

          That and make sure you don't give away your FTP etc. password to anyone.
          Last edited by NoeticCC; 08-04-2009, 05:39 AM.

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            #6
            Re: Server Security

            I think he means protect from someone who has access to the server (physically)?
            -
            Apart from encryption which can still be broken, there is no protection.
            -
            One setup though that confuses me. Lets say I do a project for XYZ inc,
            As part of the handover I resell them an A5 Server, + install all the a5w, files and components etc etc.
            Unless I have a legal sign off of the project XYZ inc can reproduce the project as they see fit.
            Alpha has no system of source protection, (nor do I expect it to have).
            But I can see oneday an Alpha developer being burned in this fashion.
            I'm physically bigger than most of my clients so I don't expect it to happen to me. :-)

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              #7
              Re: Server Security

              Hi Andrea,

              I do mean just that. My customer has access to the server but he is not the user of the application. I just want to protect myself that no one can copy the application from the server and then make use of it in full or part for another user.

              Colin, if the situation arises, can I borrow your services :-)
              Regards
              Keith Hubert
              Alpha Guild Member
              London.
              KHDB Management Systems
              Skype = keith.hubert


              For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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                #8
                Re: Server Security

                Keith,

                Then if that is your concern, I believe that my suggestion would work, no?

                Gary
                Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                  #9
                  Re: Server Security

                  If I understand well you want to encrypt your source on the WAS, so no one can mess with your sources or place it on a other machine for instance ?

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                    #10
                    Re: Server Security

                    What is a function is written whereas

                    you read either a dbf file or txt file rename it
                    e.g.
                    server.txt to server.dll

                    add the name of the machine e.g. wasserver123
                    and have the login check in the file for the name in server.dll
                    and compare to the machine API or some calculation that is based on the machine it's self ip address etc......

                    compile this in an AEX file this way it only would work on that machine.

                    If you copied to another machine the machine would have to be the exact same?

                    ???????
                    Nicholas Wieland
                    LedgerSuite.com Corp
                    [email protected]
                    http://www.ledgersuite.com

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                      #11
                      Re: Server Security

                      Originally posted by NicholasWieland View Post
                      What is a function is written whereas

                      you read either a dbf file or txt file rename it
                      e.g.
                      server.txt to server.dll

                      add the name of the machine e.g. wasserver123
                      and have the login check in the file for the name in server.dll
                      and compare to the machine API or some calculation that is based on the machine it's self ip address etc......

                      compile this in an AEX file this way it only would work on that machine.

                      If you copied to another machine the machine would have to be the exact same?

                      ???????
                      I would agreee that could be a solution but encrypt the application < with of without your own serialnr> is easier for a lot folks.
                      Second the question in the way A5 is checking for a valid serial on the WAS is the safest en most easy way for [ registered/companies]developers to register and protect there application in that way. So thats a open question to A5 company.

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