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    Feedback on Updates

    I'm evaluating Alpha 5 for a major project, and would appreciate some feedback on the vendor's update practices on its current version - e.g. timing of bug fixes and delivery of promised functionality. Also, will the new version have the ability for new users to relatively easily incorporate external web services and java libraries? Thanks very much.

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    Re: Feedback on Updates

    Hi Robert,

    Welcome to Alpha.

    I suggest you contact the sales office and get your answers in writing.
    Regards
    Keith Hubert
    Alpha Guild Member
    London.
    KHDB Management Systems
    Skype = keith.hubert


    For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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      #3
      Re: Feedback on Updates

      Originally posted by RobertL View Post
      ...appreciate some feedback on the vendor's update practices on its current version - e.g. timing of bug fixes and delivery of promised functionality.
      Check out the release notes (i.e. patch/bug fix frequency) for the current version:
      http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/A...easenotes.html
      Peter
      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

      [email protected]
      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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        #4
        Re: Feedback on Updates

        Peter, thank you. I was hoping for some indication of the vendor's propensity to <not> fix bugs considered important by users - which of course release notes don't provide. Although I have no experience with this product, I *have* been developing commercial apps for a long time and come to be belief that vendor practices are at least as important to me as product functionality - particularly smaller vendors.

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          #5
          Re: Feedback on Updates

          Alpha tends to be very responsive to bug fixes in current versions (exclusively). Having said that, some bugs seem to persist regardless.
          Peter
          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

          [email protected]
          https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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            #6
            Re: Feedback on Updates

            As with all complex systems, your mileage may vary.

            I would stay on the forums and see what others are dealing with.

            Each of us develops some number of standard ways of dealing with issues. As a result, some never have problems and others do.

            Alpha5 generates modified html (embedded A5 code). You can modify that to your liking - including whatever third party plug-in that you wish.

            It is Xbasic and it is object oriented.

            Regards,
            Greg Wood

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              #7
              Re: Feedback on Updates

              Originally posted by RobertL View Post
              I'm evaluating Alpha 5 for a major project, and would appreciate some feedback on the vendor's update practices on its current version - e.g. timing of bug fixes and delivery of promised functionality. Also, will the new version have the ability for new users to relatively easily incorporate external web services and java libraries? Thanks very much.
              re the question on external web services and libraries - in v10 the answer is YES

              do you want to get the beta of v10? if so please email me at [email protected]

              new desktop features in v10 videos

              http://news.alphasoftware.com/V10Pre...uresVideos.htm

              new web features (codeless ajax) in v10 videos (the 1st few do not have sound)
              http://news.alphasoftware.com/V10Preview/videos.htm
              Richard Rabins
              Co Chairman
              Alpha Software

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                #8
                Re: Feedback on Updates

                Mr. Rabins,
                Thanks for your kind offer - but let me ask this: are the docs for v10 substantially complete? If not, I would prefer to wait until they are. Thanks again.

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                  #9
                  Re: Feedback on Updates

                  Originally posted by RobertL View Post
                  Mr. Rabins,
                  Thanks for your kind offer - but let me ask this: are the docs for v10 substantially complete? If not, I would prefer to wait until they are. Thanks again.
                  Pardon me for answering the question to Richard but I doubt there are any docs for v10. No doubt they are working on the and that is perhaps a reason why V10 is not released yet. In previous versions, beta release support docs were not available.

                  I've been wrong before and could be wrong on this but..............

                  kenn
                  TYVM :) kenn

                  Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                    #10
                    Re: Feedback on Updates

                    Thank you Kenn.

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                      #11
                      Re: Feedback on Updates

                      Originally posted by RobertL View Post
                      Mr. Rabins,
                      Thanks for your kind offer - but let me ask this: are the docs for v10 substantially complete? If not, I would prefer to wait until they are. Thanks again.
                      There are many enhancements to v10 BUT 90 to 95% is the same. Most of the new features are web components using AJAX. And there are a number of videos on the blog showing the new features. The rest is already in the documentation.

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                        #12
                        Re: Feedback on Updates

                        Gregory,
                        Please can you point me in the documentation that is 90-95% complete.

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                          #13
                          Re: Feedback on Updates

                          Originally posted by Lance Gurd View Post
                          Gregory,
                          Please can you point me in the documentation that is 90-95% complete.
                          The Alpha help file is available as a PDF. It's over 8500 pages. Be sure to get the Alpha Five v9 Help System PDF. It contains a number of different manuals pushed into one big file.

                          http://www.alphasoftware.com/documentation/

                          The "Alpha Five Made Easy V8 Abridged" may be worth your time (also on the doc page). I purchased the full version sometime back. Again, there are some differences between v8 and v9 but not enough that you can't use the info.

                          IN GENERAL, each version is a superset of the previous version. I have read some number of posts about older apps having issues when recompiled with the newer version. I assume this is more the exception than the rule. It would be interesting to have someone comment on that.

                          Regards,
                          Greg Wood

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                            #14
                            Re: Feedback on Updates

                            Thanks for the info Greg, for a little while I thought you had found some great secret source of information, but sadly no.

                            The V9 help system pdf is not what it says on the tin, the only reference to V9 in it is on the front page! And the information on items released in V8 is not complete. We can only hope that either of the upcoming Wiki's give more information.

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                              #15
                              Re: Feedback on Updates

                              Originally posted by RobertL View Post
                              I'm evaluating Alpha 5 for a major project, and would appreciate some feedback on the vendor's update practices on its current version - e.g. timing of bug fixes and delivery of promised functionality. Also, will the new version have the ability for new users to relatively easily incorporate external web services and java libraries? Thanks very much.
                              RE: Bug fixes

                              I've sent in numerous bugs for Alpha v9 and they have been taken care of in a matter of hours to a couple of days. The bug requests go directly to the CEO. Of all the software vendors I have dealt with, I believe Alpha is definitely the most responsive. You may have to go back and forth a little via email explaining the situation you are having, but if you have an authentic bug, it will be fixed post haste.
                              Regards,
                              Chet Sapino
                              President,
                              SAPINO Enterprises
                              6451 Pheasant Rd
                              East Syracuse, NY 13057

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