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    V10 Release

    How much longer Are we going to wait for V10?

    #2
    Re: V10 Realese

    That's one of those questions that you are not going to get an answer to, here, or from Alpha. Patience....
    Bill Griffin
    Parkell, Inc

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      #3
      Re: V10 Realese

      well i would like to know that too...at least an estimate...
      i have to start couple of projects soon but i cant wait for too long...but probably i have to consider other alternatives...its a pity though...v10 looks very promising...

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        #4
        Re: V10 Realese

        Originally posted by jpeltola View Post
        well i would like to know that too...at least an estimate...
        i have to start couple of projects soon but i cant wait for too long...but probably i have to consider other alternatives...its a pity though...v10 looks very promising...
        If you get the beta, you can start developing today. Selwyn said that (ideally) v.10 was slated for the end of the month (August). So it's probably not very far away at this point.
        Peter
        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

        [email protected]
        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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          #5
          Re: V10 Realese

          well actually i requested that...twice...would save a lot of time...but...
          i guess its a nono :-)

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            #6
            Re: V10 Realese

            if you need the beta just email me directly at [email protected] and I will get it to you promptly

            you can definitely start working with it now
            thanks
            Richard Rabins
            Co Chairman
            Alpha Software

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              #7
              Re: V10 Realese

              Last chance to buy V9 licenses (v9 will no longer be sold once v10 is released later this month.)
              From the latest email campaign
              Jeff Ryder

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                #8
                Re: V10 Release

                later this month?
                you mean September?

                hmmm ok...wasted enough time now...
                Last edited by jpeltola; 09-04-2009, 04:00 PM.

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                  #9
                  Re: V10 Release

                  Originally posted by jpeltola View Post
                  later this month?
                  you mean September?
                  Since this came out in today's email campaign and was dated Sept. 4th I would assume that it means later this month (September)
                  Jeff Ryder

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                    #10
                    Re: V10 Release

                    Quick Question.

                    Are the developers going to take the ajax lookup option and apply it to Dialogs as well?

                    I have a lot of time and energy built up in dialogs and would love to migrate the old lookup option to the newer and sleeker ajax option.
                    Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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                      #11
                      Re: V10 Release

                      Elena,

                      I know where you are coming from with your investment in dialogs, and it was mentioned at the conference there are going to be some additions to dialogs in the future, but I would have to say, after using V10 for quite a while now � i don�t think dialogs are going to make it � the new grid seems to play the role now. I have discarded all my dialog development and moved exclusively to the dynamic functions of the grid.

                      The good thing V10 codeless ajax builds quickly and you have the benfits of process in your favor.
                      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
                      Albert Einstein, (attributed)
                      US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                        #12
                        Re: V10 Release

                        Selwyn told me in response to a recent bug report that there are not going to be any changes to dialogs in V10. For V11, the dialog will be redone, but it will actually be a special case of the grid.

                        I also have a large number of dialogs in my past work, but, for V10 it looks like I'll want to rewrite everthing anyway, so it's going to be a lot of work, but not that much extra work, for any customers who want to upgrade.

                        There are a couple problems with grids as substitutes for dialogs: one is size. The first grid I created to replace a dialog was 141k. The dialog it replaced was 31k (which doesn't count the Ajax page also created). The good news is it doesn't seem to take much extra time to run the grid.

                        The second problem is appearance. The "form" version of the grid still looks grid-like. This is because they've changed the way the "above" and "below" row label appears on the form. It used to be, if I had a large text area, I could set the row label to "above", and the text area would cover the row label area as well as the data area. Now, the label moves to the top, but there is still an ugly empty area where the label used to be.

                        By the way, does it annoy anyone else that they have a "left", "right", "top" and "botom" option for row labels, but no "none"?

                        Pat
                        Pat Bremkamp
                        MindKicks Consulting

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                          #13
                          Re: V10 Release

                          I'm fine with changing it to grids.

                          I'm just not sure how to do this now. I can't use linked grids because I'm creating a new record that will update several tables. I can use a view, but I don't know how or where to write the code to insert a new record if the dealer doesn't already exist (dlrid will be the key here I think.)

                          I just got used to dialogs and how to manipulate them. dang.
                          Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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                            #14
                            Re: V10 Release

                            Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post
                            I'm fine with changing it to grids.
                            I feel that using "dummy" grids instead of dialogs is a lot more like desktop development in Alpha5 than in the past...

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                              #15
                              Re: V10 Release

                              I've been thinking about the same issue. I have a signup dialog that creates a client record, a location record, an employee record, a user record and logs the person in...a lot of work for one form! So, I decided to create a grid with a lot of dummy fields, load them all into session variables (like session.su.firstname) and then go to a page of just xbasic to do all that work. Not so bad because I already have the Xbasic written in the dialog.

                              I'd leave it in the nice skinny dialog instead of a fat grid and an extra page, but there is a problem with cascading dropdowns that isn't going to be fixed, so I'm going to have to go that route.

                              Pat
                              Pat Bremkamp
                              MindKicks Consulting

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