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    How to run multiple web sites

    Hello
    I understand that to have "normal web site addresses" I have to have multiple static IP Addresses ie a Static IP Address for each website.

    I also understand that each Static IP Address will cost �60 per year from BT assuming I run my own server from here. I expect more costs if I use a remote hosting server.

    This is a cost that I do not wish to carry and it seems a severe limitation of the Alpha5 V10 application. I certainly did not realise this when I made the purchase.

    Is there any way that I can operate multiple web addresses from one static IP address without having to insert the second level of address i.e.
    http://www.server.com/application1 and
    http://www.server.com/application2 which I find unacceptable.

    I certainly do not have to do this in other web development applications I use. I am quite happy to have to devote a server to avoid having to use the port 8080 where Alpha and IIs cannot both share port 80

    The IP Address limitation is explained on page.
    http://support.alphasoftware.com/Wha...0/NewInV10.htm
    Application Server - 'How To' Topics
    How to run multiple applications/web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files.

    Is this problem something that Alpha will solve soon?
    Regards
    John

    #2
    Re: How to run multiple web sites

    Use a domain registrar that will allow redirection of your URL.
    you simply redirect to the published folder on the VPS or server that has you content.
    All apps will run from the one server independant of each other inc. security.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Albert Einstein, (attributed)
    US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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      #3
      Re: How to run multiple web sites

      Thanks Peter,
      That sounds interesting
      I dont really understand this but will investigate further.
      Cheers
      John

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        #4
        Re: How to run multiple web sites

        What you do is register your new domain name: ie: www.myapp.com with your registrar. You then go to the control panel of your new domain and look for forwarding (Might be an additional charge).

        You don't need a static IP. You could always use www.dyndns.org, but that's not the iissue you are asking about.

        In the forwarding screen you would then enter the IP you want to use for your app: ie: http://123.124.125.126:8080/myapp1/

        It can take awhile for the new forwarding to propogate, but it does work. I use www.powweb.com for hosting my main site www.411tech.org and also as a registrar for sites that I host on my own server.

        Check it out.
        ---------------------------------------------------
        Barry Kucher
        http://www.411tech.org

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          #5
          Re: How to run multiple web sites

          Thanks Barry
          Thats great information and I now forwarding on Fasthosts.co.uk

          Now I am not clear on what the nameserver should be, can you say how I find this please?
          Cheers
          John

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            #6
            Re: How to run multiple web sites

            Sorry I should have said

            Thats great information and I now have found the forwarding on Fasthosts.co.uk

            Now I am not clear on what the nameserver should be, can you say how I find this please?
            Cheers
            John

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              #7
              Re: How to run multiple web sites

              Hi John

              You should not be touching the nameserver settings. I am also on Fasthosts. You should try the Web Forwarding option and enter the url.
              Glen Schild



              My Blog

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                #8
                Re: How to run multiple web sites

                Thanks Glen,
                Seems like ukreg.com is having problems.

                So on a new domain would
                1st nameserver and
                2nd nameserver boxes be left empty?

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                  #9
                  Re: How to run multiple web sites

                  John

                  From your Fasthosts control panel you should be using the package "email and web forwarding" for your domain name.

                  Select the configure web forwarding option and from here you should have the option to use masked forwarding or unmasked forwarding.

                  All of this is from the Fasthosts Control Panel NOT the UKReg CP. You do not need to touch the nameserver info.

                  Regards

                  Glen
                  Glen Schild



                  My Blog

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                    #10
                    Re: How to run multiple web sites

                    Thanks again Glen.

                    And thanks for all the help so generously given by everyone.

                    Cheers
                    John

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                      #11
                      Re: How to run multiple web sites

                      One server, single IP, handling domains
                      www.App1.com,
                      www.App2.com, and
                      www.App3.com.

                      Inbound IP traffic arrives at port 80 for each web.

                      IIS redirects to a5Web Server on same server at
                      http://www.App1.com:8080/App1
                      http://www.App2.com:8080/App2
                      http://www.App3.com:8080/App3
                      respectively.

                      Why wouldn't that work?
                      I can't think of a reason it won't.
                      (I sure hope it will, I'm banking on it.)

                      Carl - a REALLY REALLY new newbie to A5.
                      (Just installed Web server today and don't have anything running.)
                      Carl ~ Dallas, TX
                      I'm so old that pool balls came with Roman Numerals

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                        #12
                        Re: How to run multiple web sites

                        I believe (based on looking at a similar IIS/A5 installation and reading up on it) that your URL's will look like the second batch after 'redirection'. IIS does not appear to mask the URL.
                        Steve Wood
                        See my profile on IADN

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                          #13
                          Re: How to run multiple web sites

                          Doesn't forwarding cause problems with SSL?
                          Gary S. Traub, Ph.D.

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                            #14
                            Re: How to run multiple web sites

                            Originally posted by JH10 View Post
                            Hello
                            I understand that to have "normal web site addresses" I have to have multiple static IP Addresses ie a Static IP Address for each website.

                            I also understand that each Static IP Address will cost �60 per year from BT assuming I run my own server from here. I expect more costs if I use a remote hosting server.

                            This is a cost that I do not wish to carry and it seems a severe limitation of the Alpha5 V10 application. I certainly did not realise this when I made the purchase.

                            Is there any way that I can operate multiple web addresses from one static IP address without having to insert the second level of address i.e.
                            http://www.server.com/application1 and
                            http://www.server.com/application2 which I find unacceptable.

                            I certainly do not have to do this in other web development applications I use. I am quite happy to have to devote a server to avoid having to use the port 8080 where Alpha and IIs cannot both share port 80

                            The IP Address limitation is explained on page.
                            http://support.alphasoftware.com/Wha...0/NewInV10.htm
                            Application Server - 'How To' Topics
                            How to run multiple applications/web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files.

                            Is this problem something that Alpha will solve soon?
                            Regards
                            John
                            You can install the Abyss web server X2 which can handle an endless number of domains. It costs $59.95 and is available from www.aprelium.com. It is relatively trivial to install. You can then use it in conjunction with an ip updater such as that from www.no-ip.com This enables you to install multiple domains on a simple windows xp home server.
                            Regards,
                            Chet Sapino
                            President,
                            SAPINO Enterprises
                            6451 Pheasant Rd
                            East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                              #15
                              Re: How to run multiple web sites

                              Chet, Thank you for pointing to Abyss server. I will check that out. Have you tried this with Alpha?

                              The trick is going to be can Abyss forward the request from port 80 (which Abyss will be listening to) to some other port that Alpha will be running on, like port 81. There is a post on their forum that suggests it is 'easy': http://www.aprelium.com/forum/viewto...b9e9a4ebd2ed41

                              If you forward to port 81, will that "81" show up in the URL? That is the problem with IIS and Apache, it still shows the port number in the URL. If this works it will be nice, IIS is too complex and Apache is difficult to work with.
                              Steve Wood
                              See my profile on IADN

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