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    #16
    Re: How to run multiple web sites

    This no longer seems to be supported in version 10. If you create separate apps such as you all have been describing the server does not process your .AEX files or recognize the security files. I have also noted that you need to put all of the grid control .a5wcp files in the root directory for them to run. If they are stored in another directory they do not run.

    So to run multiple apps you must follow the docs and run 1IP per application. Or jam as many files in the root folder. But to run it this way means that you are creating all of your apps in one web project folder.

    Dang this sucks!

    I also attached some notes that I have been making to make sense of the files Alpha5 is using.

    If anyone has overcome this please let me know.

    Thanks,

    Michael Carroll

    www.redrocksbluesky.com
    [email protected]
    435-275-5170 Cell

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      #17
      Re: How to run multiple web sites

      This works ... it does show the :8080, but having extra decorations on the URL is not the end of the world.

      One server, single IP, handling domains
      www.App1.com,
      www.App2.com, and
      www.App3.com.

      Inbound IP traffic arrives at port 80 for each web.

      IIS redirects to a5Web Server on same server at
      http://www.app1.com:8080/App1
      http://www.app2.com:8080/App2
      http://www.app3.com:8080/App3
      respectively.


      Carl - a REALLY REALLY new newbie to A5.
      Carl ~ Dallas, TX
      I'm so old that pool balls came with Roman Numerals

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        #18
        Re: How to run multiple web sites

        [QUOTE=CarlMPearson;517501]This works ... it does show the :8080, but having extra decorations on the URL is not the end of the world.

        One server, single IP, handling domains
        www.App1.com,
        www.App2.com, and
        www.App3.com.

        Inbound IP traffic arrives at port 80 for each web.

        IIS redirects to a5Web Server on same server at
        http://www.app1.com:8080/App1
        http://www.app2.com:8080/App2
        http://www.app3.com:8080/App3
        respectively.

        You ought to tell us how you did this.

        If I click on any of these links, I do not see 8080 hanging off the url

        www.App1.com,
        www.App2.com, and
        www.App3.com.

        Are you using a windows server or XP/Vista to run your site?
        Regards,
        Chet Sapino
        President,
        SAPINO Enterprises
        6451 Pheasant Rd
        East Syracuse, NY 13057

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          #19
          Re: How to run multiple web sites

          Thanks for the further information'

          I think the :8080 is not on for sites that are intended as public sites. I doubt many people would remember the address and they will be puzzled by the :8080 or similar.
          For company admin sites and the likes it would be fine. We deserve a better answer from Alpha.
          Cheers
          John

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            #20
            Re: How to run multiple web sites

            It may not be the most open solution but there is a complete description of how to run multiple websites using V10 in the What's New document.

            http://support.alphasoftware.com/Wha...erver.html#How to run multiple applications or web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files

            I do know that they are working on beefing up this particular area - adding additional means to protect the WAS from internet based attackes, etc. I still plan to test out the Abyss webserver proposed in another thread as a front-end solution.

            Chet - those app1-3 were just examples. It so happens that they lead to real websites, nothing to do with Alpha Five or any application created by Carl. It's like when everyone uses the 'generic' "www.domain.com" as an example, but it leads to a real website.
            Steve Wood
            See my profile on IADN

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              #21
              Re: How to run multiple web sites

              I do know that they are working on beefing up this particular area - adding additional means to protect the WAS from internet based attackes,
              That sounds like excellent news Steve I wonder if perhaps Alpha would like to comment if and when this problem will be resolved?

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                #22
                Re: How to run multiple web sites

                Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                It may not be the most open solution but there is a complete description of how to run multiple websites using V10 in the What's New document.

                http://support.alphasoftware.com/Wha...erver.html#How to run multiple applications or web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files

                I do know that they are working on beefing up this particular area - adding additional means to protect the WAS from internet based attackes, etc. I still plan to test out the Abyss webserver proposed in another thread as a front-end solution.

                Chet - those app1-3 were just examples. It so happens that they lead to real websites, nothing to do with Alpha Five or any application created by Carl. It's like when everyone uses the 'generic' "www.domain.com" as an example, but it leads to a real website.
                I posted my results in creating multiple web sites and my post was bumped to its own thread. Getting feedback from Alpha I created a clean www.flowspec.net/App1, and www.flowspec.net/App2 as has been suggested here. I am getting the same errors as before. If this is the same issue some of you are having please follow the thread over to:

                http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...54&postcount=2

                Thanks,

                Michael Carroll

                www.redrocksbluesky.com
                [email protected]
                435-275-5170 Cell

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                  #23
                  Re: How to run multiple web sites

                  Well, I've read every post on this thread plus everything I could find in the various links and I still don't know what's happening.

                  1. Can v10 still be used with Apache? (If so, I don't see why there's a big issue. If there is one, please explain.)

                  Assuming the answer to #1 is no...

                  2. Is it possible with v10 to set it up so that one user is on www.myfakesite.com/App1 and another is on www.myfakesite.com/App2? (For some of my customers this is acceptable and some are doing that now in v9.)

                  3. Is it possible with v10 to set it up so that each user's data is in a different subfolder and is accessed with a completely unique URL? (i.e., probably redirected. Other current customers are doing this now in v9.)

                  4. The "How to run multiple applications or web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files" that was referenced above talks about setting up multiple instances of the server. Does this mean that you have to purchase a new copy of the WAS for every app? If so, I don't have a chance in hades of selling it to most of my current customers and I will have to stay with v9.

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                    #24
                    Re: How to run multiple web sites

                    Originally posted by CALocklin View Post
                    2. Is it possible with v10 to set it up so that one user is on www.myfakesite.com/App1 and another is on www.myfakesite.com/App2? (For some of my customers this is acceptable and some are doing that now in v9.)

                    4. The "How to run multiple applications or web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files" that was referenced above talks about setting up multiple instances of the server. Does this mean that you have to purchase a new copy of the WAS for every app?
                    Not sure. But my reading of this section is that you don't need additional licenses, you just need to start an additional instance of the server running. But, of course, you will need a unique IP address for each instance, as well.
                    Peter
                    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                    [email protected]
                    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                      #25
                      Re: How to run multiple web sites

                      Originally posted by JH10 View Post
                      Sorry I should have said

                      Thats great information and I now have found the forwarding on Fasthosts.co.uk

                      Now I am not clear on what the nameserver should be, can you say how I find this please?
                      Cheers
                      John
                      I am sorry for the long delay in responding. I just read the first part of your message until now.

                      Unless you want to set up your own mailserver, there is no need to mess with nameservers.

                      The web forwarding is the way you redirect your users to your A5Webroot.
                      ---------------------------------------------------
                      Barry Kucher
                      http://www.411tech.org

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                        #26
                        Re: How to run multiple web sites

                        Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
                        Not sure. But my reading of this section is that you don't need additional licenses, you just need to start an additional instance of the server running. But, of course, you will need a unique IP address for each instance, as well.
                        That's the way I read it to but anybody know for sure? Certainly someone must have tried this by now.

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                          #27
                          Re: How to run multiple web sites

                          Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                          It may not be the most open solution but there is a complete description of how to run multiple websites using V10 in the What's New document.

                          http://support.alphasoftware.com/Wha...erver.html#How to run multiple applications or web sites by using multiple Application Server configuration files

                          I do know that they are working on beefing up this particular area - adding additional means to protect the WAS from internet based attackes, etc. I still plan to test out the Abyss webserver proposed in another thread as a front-end solution.

                          Chet - those app1-3 were just examples. It so happens that they lead to real websites, nothing to do with Alpha Five or any application created by Carl. It's like when everyone uses the 'generic' "www.domain.com" as an example, but it leads to a real website.

                          I haven't seen anything from you on this Steve. How does Abyss stand up? Does it cloak the ip info (8080)?

                          I'm migrating all of my websites from a Linux server over to this Alpha Five machine to save money and time. They don't have forms and such, as they are informational only. I'd really like to run Plesk along with Alpha Five on two separate ip addresses. Plesk is so easy to manage. Expensive but easy.
                          Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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                            #28
                            Re: How to run multiple web sites

                            I downloaded it and am installing. From the help it uses a method called RewriteEngine and Proxy that I tried earlier in Apache, with imperfect results. But that was early in v10 when it was still a mix of 9 and 10, so I will retry.
                            Steve Wood
                            See my profile on IADN

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                              #29
                              Re: How to run multiple web sites

                              I installed and am running Abyss server. In reading their Forum, looks like there are features in the upcoming release that will help with 'running a different server behind Abyss, on a different port'. Their website says that new version will be out "end of 2009". So I fired off some questions to their support division. I get support because I paid for their professional version ($60), which includes virtual hosting.

                              The interface is nicer than slugging through an Apache handbook to get the syntax. The server also has special features for anti-hacking and DOS attacks, which all of us will eventually find out we need.
                              Steve Wood
                              See my profile on IADN

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                                #30
                                Re: How to run multiple web sites

                                Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                                I installed and am running Abyss server. In reading their Forum, looks like there are features in the upcoming release that will help with 'running a different server behind Abyss, on a different port'. Their website says that new version will be out "end of 2009". So I fired off some questions to their support division. I get support because I paid for their professional version ($60), which includes virtual hosting.

                                The interface is nicer than slugging through an Apache handbook to get the syntax. The server also has special features for anti-hacking and DOS attacks, which all of us will eventually find out we need.
                                I've been running Abyss Pro Version with virtual hosting for 6+ years and have not had a single issue with it. I have an addin for asp and also have installed PHP and Perl. Everything works perfectly.

                                I also use AWSTATS. This is a great program (free) for getting complete web statistics. I believ it requires the Perl addin.
                                Regards,
                                Chet Sapino
                                President,
                                SAPINO Enterprises
                                6451 Pheasant Rd
                                East Syracuse, NY 13057

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