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Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

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    Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

    Hello all. I've been reading some of the threads on using Alpha 5 v8 on win 7 in compatibility mode. Initially, I thought all was fine with my Database and installation on my new win 7 machine, but now I've discovered a problem.

    My main data entry form has several tabs on it. I have a general tab for some general information, and then about 3 other tabs that I use to collect specific information from customers about various things.

    Anyway, on my win 7 computer with alpha 5 v8 running in compat mode (I've tried xp and vista compat modes), my tabs do not appear at all. All I can see are the fields for the first general tab, but the tabs (and their titles) do not appear at all.

    Anyone have an idea of what is going on here?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

    Im not a programmer and am now using version 10. But when I got my new 64 bit Windows 7 machine and installed v8 on it, I recall noting the same problem that you describe. Thinking it was the Alpha software I opted buying v10. But now think the problem was a system process or software conflict. Check out my post in the Alpha 5 v10 desktop forum, titled "Odd Behavior in Windows 7 (I Think", for a possible cause to your problem.

    Not sure that this will help you, as I am an amateur not a professional with A5, but hope it does.

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      #3
      Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

      If you have Win 7 ultimate, pro or enterprise, then you can download virtual mode and xp and try to run V8 under virtual xp. Just a thought.

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        Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

        Originally posted by toothfixer View Post
        Im not a programmer and am now using version 10. But when I got my new 64 bit Windows 7 machine and installed v8 on it, I recall noting the same problem that you describe. Thinking it was the Alpha software I opted buying v10. But now think the problem was a system process or software conflict. Check out my post in the Alpha 5 v10 desktop forum, titled "Odd Behavior in Windows 7 (I Think", for a possible cause to your problem.

        Not sure that this will help you, as I am an amateur not a professional with A5, but hope it does.
        Toothfixer - Thanks for the reply. I read through that thread and I'm not sure it's gonna help. I'm trying to run Alpha 5 v8 on a brand new 32-bit Win 7 machine. It's a pretty clean install. I've only installed some essential software on it, so I doubt there are conflicts. However, that's a great place to start looking. I'll check into it the next time I'm in my office. Thanks.

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          Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

          Still no luck. The tabs on my main data entry field are missing.

          I tried running this database on the same computer with a trial version of Alpha 5 v10 and my form works perfectly. I can see all the tabs. My only problem is with v8 running in compat mode.

          I really would like to make the compat mode work with v8, because I have such a simple DB and I'm not happy about having to shell out $500 for the upgrade when I won't take advantage of ANY of the new features.

          I also only have the Home Premium version of win 7, so I can't use virtual mode.

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            #6
            Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

            Terry,
            Just a guess/suggestion here for something to try. If you have not already, try a different compatibility mode...that is if you tried XP SP3, then maybe try Vista to see if it works.
            Mike
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            It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
            It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
            Henry David Thoreau
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              #7
              Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

              A5V8 Runtime shows tabs properly here in Win 7 Pro running in compatibility mode for XP SP2. It's a virtual Win 7, so the hardware is very modest and the setup is pristine.

              I can try a full version instead of the runtime or Home Premium instead of Pro if anyone thinks that would be helpful.

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                #8
                Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                Originally posted by tcentral View Post
                Still no luck. The tabs on my main data entry field are missing.

                ...

                I also only have the Home Premium version of win 7, so I can't use virtual mode.
                According to the chart at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e/default.aspx, Win 7 Home Premium doesn't have the XP compatibility feature/mode.

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                  Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                  Joe,
                  I went to your linked website and do not see what you see obviously. Nothing is stated about compatibility mode at all!! I believe, for some reason, many people confuse XP compatibility mode with XP Mode.....two completely different things!! It was not the best naming by Microsoft, but their explanations of each are clear.
                  Mike
                  __________________________________________
                  It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                  It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                  Henry David Thoreau
                  __________________________________________



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                    Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                    Just for the heck of it, is the screen Resolution of the WIN7 machine identical to the "ok" macine's??
                    The new screens on WIN7 machines can get waaaay up there and can cause a "woops" in many programs.
                    Easy to check and change.
                    I back down my WIN7 to 1152 x 864. Enough with the teeny tiny stuff.
                    First Love

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                      Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                      Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                      Joe,
                      I went to your linked website and do not see what you see obviously. Nothing is stated about compatibility mode at all!! I believe, for some reason, many people confuse XP compatibility mode with XP Mode.....two completely different things!! It was not the best naming by Microsoft, but their explanations of each are clear.
                      The sixth line down from the top of the feature matrix states: Run many Windows XP productivity programs in Windows XP Mode.

                      This "feature" is not available in Home Premium and, apparently, is an additional download for higher versions. The lack of the "guaranteed" ability to run XP programs with Home Premium is the main reason I don't intend to upgrade to Win 7.

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                        #12
                        Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                        Hi Joe,
                        Just as I stated. XP mode is not available in Win7 Home. Compatibility Mode still is as it has been since I believe Win98. Don't confuse the two. XP Mode, if I have read correctly, simply runs on a VM (Virtual Machine)and you would have to have a licensed copy of whatever other OS you wanted in addition to Win7 in order to do so.

                        BTW---no OS of any nature (Windows, Linux, OSx, etc) has ever guaranteed program compatibility. I would think every new version of OS that has ever came out has had at least one program that will not work correctly.
                        Mike
                        __________________________________________
                        It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                        It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                        Henry David Thoreau
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                          Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                          Im having the same problem...windows 7 pro a5v8. All tabbs missing on form. I went into the properties of the tabb object and clicked always stay on top and they re appeared, but as i click back and forth on them they start to dissapear again. They will come back after i close the form and reopen it. If you have a solution please share. I will do the same.

                          Thanks.
                          Rob




                          Originally posted by tcentral View Post
                          Hello all. I've been reading some of the threads on using Alpha 5 v8 on win 7 in compatibility mode. Initially, I thought all was fine with my Database and installation on my new win 7 machine, but now I've discovered a problem.

                          My main data entry form has several tabs on it. I have a general tab for some general information, and then about 3 other tabs that I use to collect specific information from customers about various things.

                          Anyway, on my win 7 computer with alpha 5 v8 running in compat mode (I've tried xp and vista compat modes), my tabs do not appear at all. All I can see are the fields for the first general tab, but the tabs (and their titles) do not appear at all.

                          Anyone have an idea of what is going on here?

                          Thanks in advance.

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                            #14
                            Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                            ok,,i think i figured out a work around...

                            first i went into the properties of the tabb object. selected always on top.

                            then, go to events- ontabchange
                            refresh display.


                            This seems to work so far. Hope it helps

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                              #15
                              Re: Problem with Alpha 5 V8 on Win 7 in compatibility mode

                              That could explain things. My tabs change color On Fetch, and they are always visible.

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