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    Has anyone successfully integrated Security with Active Directory? For an "Internal" application (Intranet), it makes sense to utilize the security framework already manager by Server / Active Directory.
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Steven,

    This question is not new, it's asked serveral times before.
    There is no AD support, question is will it ever come.
    Until then we have to wait, some time ago somebody mentioned write it your self.
    Well I just need one security framework not two.


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    Exactly my point. Microsoft spends who knows how many Millions a year of AD development. WAS Server is a Windows only product, so why not utilize Microsoft's development resources and $$$?

    Has anyone wrote their own AD integration?
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Several customers and ISVs have done their own AD integration. We have two kinds of AD integration in our own development pipeline; stay tuned.

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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Thanks for sharing , that is good news.

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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Thanks Martin, I am assuming another feature pack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mheller View Post
    Several customers and ISVs have done their own AD integration. We have two kinds of AD integration in our own development pipeline; stay tuned.
    This is for a Intranet Web app connected to SQL 2008R2 backend.

    I am looking for integration to Active directory. I am well versed in MS SQL 2008R2 but new to Alpha Five v10.5. I want the Alpha five Web app to recognize the "Windows login User" and use this name to login. All users must login via a Windows authentication in order to gain access to the intranet.

    When I try the getusername() command I get the Windows user of the application server and not the Web clients windows machine.

    thank you very much for your time,
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWilliams View Post
    This is for a Intranet Web app connected to SQL 2008R2 backend.

    I am looking for integration to Active directory. I am well versed in MS SQL 2008R2 but new to Alpha Five v10.5. I want the Alpha five Web app to recognize the "Windows login User" and use this name to login. All users must login via a Windows authentication in order to gain access to the intranet.

    When I try the getusername() command I get the Windows user of the application server and not the Web clients windows machine.

    thank you very much for your time,
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    Try api_getusername()

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    I'm don't understand how I get the ?api_getusername() to the Alpha Login Component. Is that something I can do now with Alpha's current security structure or do I have to wait for the new Active Directory feature?

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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Martin, is there any news on this?
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by mheller View Post
    Several customers and ISVs have done their own AD integration. We have two kinds of AD integration in our own development pipeline; stay tuned.
    From my understanding this was told to a few of us that it would be available around Sept/Oct 2010....

    So the question Martin is what is the real date?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iviowa View Post
    I'm don't understand how I get the ?api_getusername() to the Alpha Login Component. Is that something I can do now with Alpha's current security structure or do I have to wait for the new Active Directory feature?
    That only works on the desktop not on the Webapps.
    Best option is wait.
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    Personally I am anxiously waiting for the AD feature pack, which is supposed to be in the works. Don't know delivery date. One could build their own with a utility that returned authorization from AD and then auto-logged in to the Alpha application using encrypted parameters on a URL to the site and used the function a5ws_login_user(). But that's not the same thing as true AD control.

    But that is really unsafe unless you get creative with the auto-login process. the a5ws_login_user() function takes username and password as parameters, meaning you would be passing that information in the URL to auto-login. If I did that I would want to encrypt the parameters AND include some trick that made the login only work for a given period of time after AD returned the authentication.
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Well Martin?
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Would love to hear from anyone at Alpha Software

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Wood View Post
    Personally I am anxiously waiting for the AD feature pack, which is supposed to be in the works. Don't know delivery date. One could build their own with a utility that returned authorization from AD and then auto-logged in to the Alpha application using encrypted parameters on a URL to the site and used the function a5ws_login_user(). But that's not the same thing as true AD control.

    But that is really unsafe unless you get creative with the auto-login process. the a5ws_login_user() function takes username and password as parameters, meaning you would be passing that information in the URL to auto-login. If I did that I would want to encrypt the parameters AND include some trick that made the login only work for a given period of time after AD returned the authentication.
    I assume AD will deliver a hash token bind class [low level] to ::Net [Service] A5.
    That will deliver a very tight and secure structure to A5 more then ASP Net clent will do in common. Further the option IIS support will make it a roundtrip and save to use.

    Agree script your own code can be done setup your own AD controls, but what if there (sh.t)-is data- in the bucket ????, So for that purpose I wait for the vendor.
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Does anyone know yet if Active Directory will be included in version 11? My boss is asking.

    What is the estimated release date for version 11?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by iviowa View Post
    What is the estimated release date for version 11?

    My guess is august 2011.

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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    Any news on AD integration?
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    I have asked via direct email to appropriate person at Alpha and either get no reply or a no-information response. So I would guess nothing is being done.
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    Hi Steve, do you know any third parties that have done this and will sell or share?
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    Default Re: Active Directory Integration?

    We should go back and review discussions on this as there were some proposals on how to build someting. Really true integration is probably not possible without Alpha copmpleting an integration module, but we can produce the net effect of "authenticating" someome one using LDAP and automating login if authenticated. Where it might be easy to just approve/deny and automate login, it would be harder if LDAP was the repository for security groups, password expiration, etc.

    So in our poor-man's version, Alpha still has to hold and maintain all of the security information, and someone is going to have to maintain that separate from the LDAP directory.
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