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    Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

    I have a home Windows network. Would like to work with A5V8 files from second computer. How do I do this?

    Thanks

    John4life
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    Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

    Hello John,

    It is not that hard.

    What operating system/systems are you using on your home network?

    You can use one of the computers as your home network server. It will host your application folder.

    You must make sure the computer and folder permissions are set correctly for each computer. So that Alpha can find your application folder and read and write to the folder contents.

    Do you have just the Alpha development copy, or do you also have a runtime copy also?

    Ed

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      #3
      Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

      You could even just create a shortcut to it if wanted and open the application directly...that is if you have Alpha on the computer you are using.
      Mike
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      It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
      It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
      Henry David Thoreau
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        Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

        Originally posted by Ed Barley View Post
        Hello John,

        It is not that hard.

        What operating system/systems are you using on your home network?

        You can use one of the computers as your home network server. It will host your application folder.

        You must make sure the computer and folder permissions are set correctly for each computer. So that Alpha can find your application folder and read and write to the folder contents.

        Do you have just the Alpha development copy, or do you also have a runtime copy also?

        Ed

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          #5
          Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

          Originally posted by Ed Barley View Post
          Hello John,

          It is not that hard.

          What operating system/systems are you using on your home network?

          You can use one of the computers as your home network server. It will host your application folder.

          You must make sure the computer and folder permissions are set correctly for each computer. So that Alpha can find your application folder and read and write to the folder contents.

          Do you have just the Alpha development copy, or do you also have a runtime copy also?

          Ed
          Thanks Ed and Mike

          I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. I'LL TRY AGAIN.

          I am running XP Pro SP3

          I have the regular Alpha (Don't know if it is called the "development copy" or not but I also have Runtime.

          I had hoped that what Mike suggests below would work but I continue to receive an error message when I try to use the "Short Cut" idea.

          Thanks to both you and Mike.

          I do not know how the runtime thing can help me here because if I use the runtime on the second machine it will not edit the origional files - or am I missing something here?

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            Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

            John,
            The only difference between the full development and runtime versions is the ability to go into design mode and change the application you have created. You can access directly from the runtime your application from wherever and it will allow you to do whatever you have already designed into the application (change, add, delete records).

            You could also create it as a shadow database across a network which can at times speed up an application especially if you have a slow network..
            Mike
            __________________________________________
            It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
            It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
            Henry David Thoreau
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              Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

              Hi John,

              Mike gave you some good tips.

              I haven't graduated past XP Pro SP3 myself.

              John are you going to use just 2 computers on the home network?

              If your computer that you are developing your application is in your home network, you already have that computer working OK.

              You are entitled with the regular Alpha to develop your application on 2 computers with the same license. So you could have one copy on a laptop, and another copy of Alpha on your desktop computer.

              Make sure on the first computer(where the application folder is), that you have shared the drive or folder that your application resides in. So the 2nd computer can access the application over the network. I believe with XP Pro, that each computer must log in with a password. I use Windows Tweak UI to log in my computers, so I don't have to do it manually each time. I don't have too many security threats at home..So this is fine for my use.

              Keep asking question here, as the board has a wealth of people to get you going.

              Ed

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                Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                Thanks again Ed & Mike

                Ed: I have 2 computers on the network. I have Alpha 5 V8 installed on both. I have the second computer "shared" as you suggested.
                When I run a5v8 from the second computer and try to open my file on the "development" computer, I can see the set I want to open on the drop down list so I am connecting to the correct file on the correct computer but I receive an error box "Could not open or create multi-user file" then the address of the file.

                I have done this with pervious versions of Alpha 5 on a home network, so I am confused.

                Please try one more time.

                Or Mike, help me know how to use the runtime thing to edit my "development" machine files.

                TIA
                John

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                  Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                  John,
                  use the runtime thing to edit my "development" machine files
                  Not going to happen! Runtime+ is design for a runtime user to create/edit a report, nothing more (as far as I know).

                  The error message I think may be due to your trying to open the same form/table at the same time...try it making certain everything is closed on the other computer and see....
                  Mike
                  __________________________________________
                  It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                  It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                  Henry David Thoreau
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                    Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                    Hi John,

                    "Could not open or create multi-user file" You will see the set, and .adb file, but if the permissions are not right, you will get an error message.

                    Sounds like a permissions problem. Make sure the second computer has permission to write to the folder that contains your application files on your first computer.

                    Ed

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                      Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                      Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                      John,
                      The only difference between the full development and runtime versions is the ability to go into design mode and change the application you have created. You can access directly from the runtime your application from wherever and it will allow you to do whatever you have already designed into the application (change, add, delete records)...
                      Mike: If I use a Runtime version, how do I cause it to update files on the development machine? I do not understand what you are trying to tell me here. But I'm sure willing to learn.

                      Ed:[QUOTE]Sounds like a permissions problem. Make sure the second computer has permission to write to the folder that contains your application files on your first computer.[QUOTE]

                      I hear you but I do not understand how to do this. Please educate me on this. Again, I am willing to learn.

                      Thanks guys for you patience and help.

                      John

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                        Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                        John,
                        Both what Ed and I stated are related to your issue(s). You have to make certain the folder/file are shared for your network to be able to "see" them...with the specific "right" for access and read/write capabilities. Right click on the folder/file you want to share on your network and choose Share files.......

                        Once the permissions are taken care of, you use the runtime version and simply open up your application on your Main/server computer. Then to sometimes speed up any sluggishness you may want to "Shadow" and optimize which is a bit different topic and a search should lead you to the process.

                        Hope it helps, rather than add to your confusion!
                        Mike
                        __________________________________________
                        It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                        It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                        Henry David Thoreau
                        __________________________________________



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                          Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                          Hi John,

                          Mike is telling you, that you can always add data to your application from both computers, whether it is regular(development copy), or runtime. You can only edit tables, forms, etc with the regular(development copy).

                          For sharing.......On your first computer in Microsoft windows, go to My computer. The "C" drive will show up in the window. Right click on the "C" drive. Select Sharing and Security. Select the sharing tab. Under Network sharing and security, select "share this folder on the network". Also "Allow users to change my files". Go ahead and apply the changes you just made.

                          Reboot both computers on the network.

                          Try this with the second computer for a test. With your second computer. In Microsoft Windows open up "My Computer". From the menu at the top, go to tools. Select "Map network drive". On the pop up window that came up, select browse. You should be able to see your first computer by whatever name it has. It will show the C drive. You should be able to double click on the first computers C drive and see all the folders, etc on the C drive.

                          If your home network is hardwired, you do not have to worry about security. But if you are wireless, hopefully you have a password applied for security purposes.

                          Or on the second computer, you could also go to "My Network Places", and you should see the first computer name with the "C" drive shared.

                          Give this a try, and if all is well, you can just change the share to the application folder only if you wish. You can always reverse the above if you wish.

                          Ed

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                            #14
                            Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                            Thanks Ed for the much more (needed probably) detailed explanation---I am working with a laptop currently while out of town and really hate using this keyboard! :)
                            Mike
                            __________________________________________
                            It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                            It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                            Henry David Thoreau
                            __________________________________________



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                              #15
                              Re: Home Windows Network - How to work with records from second computer

                              Hey Mike,

                              I guess when you do it quite a bit, it is easy. Just need to get past the first time.

                              Have a nice night.

                              Ed

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