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    Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

    Can Web app server be configured to run as a windows service?
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    Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

    what type of service?

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      #3
      Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

      You can using Always up
      Chad Brown

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        Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

        You can try the steps outline on this document:

        http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192

        Truthfully Alpha should be doing this on the install of the Application Server. If the application server was a service you would have the ability to easily script to start/stop/restart the service without the need for 3rd party tools as well as keep it running if you log out.

        Not sure why they don't given Apache and IIS are both services.
        Joe
        Never take a ride to the edge of your mind unless you've got a ticket back - Jon Oliva - Savatage.

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          Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

          Not sure why they don't
          Its been explained before that this is not something that is just 'added' to an existing application but takes major rewrite. It may come if they do rewrite the web server. Using AlwaysUp is a big leap compared to 'just running it as a service'. AU provide a ton of advantages including automatic restart based on conditions (high CPU, etc.) and notification if there is a problem brewing, and a lot more.
          Steve Wood
          See my profile on IADN

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            Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

            Hello

            to setup app server is not too hard but takes a little command line work I have been using a free program for about 8 years for this Free version is only good for 1 service but the full - paid version will do many Just to setup the app server get the free version at this link don't know if is out there anymore on the web
            link to my server for it

            http://www.eelriver.com/FireDaemon-Lite.exe

            easy setup and I have it running on Windows server 2003

            Greg

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              Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

              Find the How-To in the Alphapedia. I just set a Win2003 server up to run Alpha's server as a service and it's working great. Only took about 10 minutes to set up after I downloaded the Win Resource Kit. Cost $0.

              There may be some gotchas, but I haven't found them yet.
              ~Joe

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                Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                Hi Steve,

                Do you perhaps know wether using AlwaysUp allows the Was to work correctly when downloading documents that are referenced with mapped drives (outside webroot)? Documentpath are in my application stored in the mysql database with the mapped drive

                I you choose to run the Was as a service (as described in the MS document) this seems to be impossible (got that information from 2 independent systemmanagers).

                Running the WAS at as the userprogramm at a server has no problems with that.

                thanks in advance,

                Ger Kurvers



                Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                Its been explained before that this is not something that is just 'added' to an existing application but takes major rewrite. It may come if they do rewrite the web server. Using AlwaysUp is a big leap compared to 'just running it as a service'. AU provide a ton of advantages including automatic restart based on conditions (high CPU, etc.) and notification if there is a problem brewing, and a lot more.
                Ger Kurvers
                Alpha Anywhere / V4.6.1.9- Build 6488 (production) / V4.6.5.1 - 8722-5683(testing)
                Development: Mysql, windows 10 64 Applicationserver: standard on Windows server 2019

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                  Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                  Ger,

                  I download and upload files to and from my server to both inside and outside my document root with no problem and have always used AlwaysUp. So I can't imagine any problem. You can run their program for free for 30 days, so you can try it out.
                  Steve Wood
                  See my profile on IADN

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                    #10
                    Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                    When launched from Always Up, I cannot use the Application Server user interface.

                    Did you solve this problem?

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                      Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                      I assume you mean the green icon in the system tray. It doesn't appear if you are on a 64-bit Windows server. But right click on the service in AlwaysUp and select "Restart 'server' in this Session".
                      Steve Wood
                      See my profile on IADN

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                        #12
                        Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                        I meant without restarting the Application Server...

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                          Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                          For these situations, only two remedies I know of.

                          - Use AlwaysUp to Restart "in this session"
                          - If you only have one instance of the WAS running, just start another instance of WAS right from the Start menu. Configure the server using that icon in the system tray, it will affect the running server.
                          - Manage the server from the xml configuration file instead of the system tray icon.

                          You have to restart the WAS when you make a change to the configuration anyway, except for email setup changes.
                          Steve Wood
                          See my profile on IADN

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                            Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                            AlwaysUP is a positive tool but if your running multiple instances you would like to see [inside] a monitor tool where you can manage the instances on the server directly.
                            Maybe an idea for V11.

                            BTW V11 is based on VS2010 that gives [possible] opertunity to include almost anything you need or like, big advantage to vendors to interact with AlphaSoftware on SDK level.
                            Last edited by bea2701; 12-18-2010, 07:23 PM.

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                              Re: Web App Server As Windows Service - A5V10

                              I had to stop using always up due to it not allowing reports against a SQL backend when A5 server was running inside as a service. I have always been annoyed that WAS doesn't run as a service out of the box, but it does so many other things so well..... Who can complain.

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