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    #16
    Re: A5 Title

    Thankyou Jo,

    I think I know what you are saying. Assign the icon to the alpha5.exe. This is fine but is it possible to do it in code using the autoexec? My goal would be set the db title and icon on opening no matter what db it is and no matter if a shortcut exists or not. I can do the title thanks to stan, but canniot do the icon

    I will add to the wish list to have something like this possible in the database properties
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    Mark Pearson
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      #17
      Re: A5 Title

      Mark,

      I am not sure if you can do that or not. If you get it to work from the autoexec or some other way after the app is starting, it still leaves the a5 icon up until that happens. This can be a couple seconds to much longer.

      Just logistics. LOL



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      Dave Mason
      [email protected]
      Skype is dave.mason46

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        #18
        Re: A5 Title

        Originally posted by Tom Henkel View Post
        We use the "appname".startup method that ...
        Code:
        -TITLE="Social Services"
        -SPLASH="G:\BCBSS\seal.bmp"
        -MAXIMIZE
        -ICON="G:\BERGEN2.ICO"
        This doesn't answer the original question but it may help some developers.

        The problem with the above is that the application - or at least the splash and icon - MUST be installed in the specified folders in the G: drive. I see this being done a LOT and I believe it's because this is the default format (with the full path) when the .startup file is created.

        If you remove the folder specification and just use the plain file name, Alpha will check the application folder and the .exe folder for the file.

        The default for the "-icon", "-splash", and "-include" options is first the Alpha Five program directory and then the .adb folder. If any of these items are in another directory, they will require the full path name. This is one important change required if you want to allow the user to put the application anywhere they want. (And, yes, I'm one of those people - and not the only one - who will often refuse to install an application that MUST go in a specific folder.)

        Another advantage is that this makes the command line shorter if you want to specify all this in the command line rather than putting it in a separate text file.

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          #19
          Re: A5 Title

          Cal,

          With over 200 machines connected to the application on the network, we needed to standardize on a single "mapped" drive letter for our network path. Deploying the ICON and Bitmaps to each machine would be insane. For our purposes, this was the most expedient. I guess I could have used a hard URL, but if we change servers some day, then I would need to change the routine as well.

          Tom

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            #20
            Re: A5 Title

            That makes sense Tom. I don't usually think of the G: drive as being a mapped drive - so that idea didn't even cross my mind. In your case, I agree with you completely - partly because you have full control over the network and the installations.

            My main reason for commenting on it was because I've had a number of people create .startup files like that with hard coded paths for generic apps and then ask me for help because it doesn't work when they send it to customers. So, in the case of generic apps, I recommend putting those files in the application folder and either including them in the "<AppName>.Network_optimization_additional_files" for network installations or installing them on the workstation with the initial workstation installation. When you don't have the luxury of controlling the network, you have to plan accordingly.

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              #21
              Re: A5 Title

              I agree completely.

              Since I don't work in the "generic" world, I usually don't think in those terms, probably something I should work on...:o


              Tom

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                #22
                Re: A5 Title

                For a different reason, I do not like mapped drives. Users can knowingly or not have access to the real main files. That "G" or other drive is directly to those files.

                I do use the url and have had no problems.

                Maybe I do it different? I make a complete runtime on one computer and just copy it to all the other computers. May not be the right way, but has worked for me.

                If you do a drive letter, you have to set this up on all computers as well as install your app. If the server is changed, you have to either remap the letter or be sure the "name of the server" is the same. It is no different with the url method.

                see below the startup on install.
                Once this is done from the bootstrap, all works well and you can copy this to each computer as an app.
                ***NOTE
                I keep the app and rtuntime in one folder so when it is copied to the next computer, it is complete.

                This has helped me in other ways with updating windows, my apps are still running from v7 that were not supposed to. NOT including win7

                Hope it helps someone.
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                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  #23
                  Re: A5 Title

                  Dave,

                  As I've stated in other posts, we also use a wonderful product called "Ground Control" from Acrasoft. It is an incredibly powerful tool that can map drives, run macros, and do myriad other things. We run it on machine startup to insure that all drives are mapped appropriately and even to check to see if there is an application update to install. If we do need to change drive mappings, we need to change one routine that sits on a url-mapped server, which is called by all machines in the agency.

                  For deploying shadows, I build one copy of the shadow on my machine. I then use winzip to create a self extracting zip which will extract the files to the proper place on all the user machines. If Ground Control sees a trigger file, it forces the self-extracting zip to run, and all the machines are updated when they boot.

                  This has helped so much, we're spoiled.

                  Tom

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                    #24
                    Re: A5 Title

                    Tom,

                    Very good!

                    I use astrum as my installer, so I can make sure the registry, and all else is consistent. Sounds like we are doing the same things, just different.



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                    Dave Mason
                    [email protected]
                    Skype is dave.mason46

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