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    Horizontal scroll still a mess

    Just upgraded to v10 and am pleased to see the vertical scroll for a browse seems to be working correctly - at last. However the horizontal scroll is still a mess. It has been that way for ever - see http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...tal+scroll+bar If you run alphasports, and look at the product list, try clicking on the horizontal scrollbar. First and second clicks, nothing. Third click, moves all the way to the right with a big white space. I really hoped this would have been fixed by now.
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    Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

    So any ideas on this, or am I stuck with it?

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      #3
      Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

      Who are you asking this of, Nick? You have had 45 viewers.
      Its not like you are being ignored, your peers don't have the answer.

      I personally don't see a big problem with the horizontal scroll in a browse, v10.5
      Each click right moves a field right just like Excel.
      It does leave the last column showing with the rest white space. Click back to go back, no problem . I wouldn't call that "a mess".

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        #4
        Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

        What you describe isn't happening in my world Nick.
        I can scroll seamlessly across the Product List and also the Vendor List. Both of these are Report based previews in my release.
        My COPD app has a browse for Clinical Observations (yukky stuff) and that works seamlessly too.
        Can you post a copy of the part of the app which is giving you problems?
        Sounds more like a H/ware issue.
        If I remember correctly, your browse is a sort of huge parst list?
        When I have developed M/cycle Parts apps., I've always used Tabbed Forms with smaller browses in them.
        This enables me to sort Clothing, Electrics, Mechanicals, MOT Test Diary, Bikes for Sale very easily. Scrolling is a bit of a no-no for me I'm afraid.
        See our Hybrid Option here;
        https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

        Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
        You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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          #5
          Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

          look at the alphasports example I gave.
          If you run alphasports, and look at the product list, try clicking on the horizontal scrollbar. First and second clicks, nothing. Third click, moves all the way to the right with a big white space.

          Sorry, you say you have done that? Maybe I am running an older version of alphasports...

          EDIT: No, I checked the version of alphasports that came with my v10 and it's still the same. It uses a browse....
          Last edited by Nick Oldfield; 06-29-2011, 10:13 AM.

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            #6
            Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

            Nick, please tell us which version of AlphaSports you're running. Then tell us how to find the form you're talking about. Supply the actual form name or walk us through the button pushes or mouse clicks we need to follow to retrace your steps. Can't tell from what you've said so far whether you're talking about a form, a browse layout, or a report (in preview mode). Please be specific. Thanks.

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              #7
              Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

              This might seem a silly question, but how can I find out which version of alphasports I have? It's just a file folder, but I assume it's version 9.
              Anyway, it's a form - the inventory information form. Run it in form view (or through the application). Click the horizontal scroll right button. First click and second click no effect. Third click scrolls to the right with empty space. Or drag the scroll bar, same effect - nothing until you drag all the way to the right, then lots of empty space.

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                #8
                Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                The version of Alphasports that ships with vers 10 of Alpha Five will be found in the samples folder of your program files folder. It gets installed there when Alpha Five is installed.

                To run that version of Alpha Sports, start Alpha Five. Use the File menu to "open" a database. Browse to the folder where you installed Alpha Five. Look for the Samples Folder. Open it. Look for the Alphasports folder. Open it. Then open the database.

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                  #9
                  Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                  When I run the vers 9 copy of Alphsports with vers 10 I see the same thing you're seeing. This is working as designed. The first click moves focus to column two. The second click moves focus to column 3. the third click scrolls to the right.

                  You're misunderstanding this because the shift of focus from column to column is obscured because the entire row is highlighted (selected ). If you uncheck the "highlight row" option in the browse appearance properties setting you'll see what I mean.

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                    #10
                    Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                    The dog ate my Alpha Sports V9 copy. (Well I think she did, either that or the 2 new PC's.)
                    Sorry Nick, I was using the V10 version.
                    If anyone has a V9 copy of Alpha Soprts, can I have one please?
                    See our Hybrid Option here;
                    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                    Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                    You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                      Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                      Originally posted by Tom Cone Jr View Post
                      When I run the vers 9 copy of Alphsports with vers 10 I see the same thing you're seeing. This is working as designed. The first click moves focus to column two. The second click moves focus to column 3. the third click scrolls to the right.

                      You're misunderstanding this because the shift of focus from column to column is obscured because the entire row is highlighted (selected ). If you uncheck the "highlight row" option in the browse appearance properties setting you'll see what I mean.
                      No, that's not how it should work. The position of the scroll bar should move from left to right across the screen as you click to scroll, not stay in one place. Watch the way that the vertical scroll works. Each click moves the scroll bar down by an amount based on the size of the browse. The vertical scroll isn't quite correct, because it still has a "white space" problem but it is not as noticable because it's only one line wide. You should never see white space at the edge of the browse, it should not scroll further to the right (or down) than the edge of the browse. On the horizontal scroll, when you scroll to the furthest right column, (vendor ID) that column should be selected, it should be the right-hand column in the visible browse, there should be no white space and the scroll bar should be to the right-hand edge of the screen.

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                        #12
                        Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                        "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                          #13
                          Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                          Now I understand what Nick is on about.
                          Going Left to Right.
                          The horizontal slider doesn't move until you get to the last column on the right, or a new column is displayed. It moves when a new column is displayed, but when 3 columns are displayed to take the space available, and you click between them, the slider doesn't move.
                          Going Right to Left, the slider follows the columns. That is an inconsistency.
                          In order to get the display correct, the Rightmost Column needs to be the same width as the Browse pane, otherwise White Space fills/pads the right hand part of the browse.

                          I got it to work without white space, but the slider display R-L is definitely not working the same way as L-R.
                          See our Hybrid Option here;
                          https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                          Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                          You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                            #14
                            Re: Horizontal scroll still a mess

                            Thanks Ted, that's exactly what I am seeing, both in alphasports and in my own application. The horizontal slider does not move if the selected column is within the displayed space. So if you have(say) four columns and three of them are visible, the horizontal slider does nothing until the fourth "click" when it suddenly moves to the far right. As Tom says, it does keep moving the column selection to the right but that's invisible if you have a line highlighted (as in alphasports). Same behavior if you try to drag the slider, until you drag it far enough to move "beyond" the right-hand displayed column it just moves back to the left. Contrast this with the vertical scroll which works correctly, the vertical slider moves even when the selected line is within the visible space.
                            And yes, if the far right column is not the same width as the overall browse space, the remaining space is filled in with white space. It should not be. If I slide to the right hand edge of the browse, what I should see is a browse with no white space, with the right hand column at the right hand edge of the browse space and the space to the left filled in by the other columns.

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