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    Reports with different headers/footers on each page

    Once a year I volunteer to work at the "Royal International Air Show" held at RAF Fairford in the UK every year. One of my tasks is to complie a list of all aircraft participating in the show and then sell printed copies of the list over the two show days. The input and format of the report I have managed to create in the correct layout, but, until now I have had to manually format the file in Word, which means from time to time I get distracted by other issues and due to a deadline the result is not always satisfactory. I want to be able to create the file direct from A5V8 into and RTF file to be emailed to the offsite professional printer, is this is possible?

    I've been playing about with report headers/footers but seem unable to create what I want:-


    a maximum of 4 pages (to be printed on an A3 sheet folded)

    Page 1:
    Header 9cm depth (empty of text)
    Footer 5.5cm depth (empty of text)

    Page 2 and 3:
    Header none
    Footer 1 line of text

    Page 4:
    Header none
    Footer 5.5cm depth (empty of text)
    the large footers and header are for the graphics added at print time.

    I can get the first page formatted with the correct header/footer sizes, but is there a way of changing the headers and footers for the subsequent pages using A5V8?
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    #2
    Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

    Graham

    Can you post what the actual output that is required?

    and probably need what you data structure looks like.....

    sure would save a lot of guessing....
    Al Buchholz
    Bookwood Systems, LTD
    Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

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      #3
      Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

      Hi Al,

      two links to my website as files too big for attachments

      the pdf is the old layout but with the correct headers and Footers

      http://www.westrowops.co.uk/db/ACL_2011_old_format.pdf

      the rtf is the new data format but requires same page headers / Footers as old format

      http://www.westrowops.co.uk/db/ACL_2012_new_format.rtf
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        #4
        Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

        A pdf of the new format would be better.. I'm not seeing any images on the .rtf and I'm guessing that I should.
        Al Buchholz
        Bookwood Systems, LTD
        Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

        Occam's Razor - KISS
        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
        Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
        "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
        Albert Einstein

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          #5
          Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

          Al,

          your not going blind, there are no graphics as they will be added later when the file is sent to the printer. but will be same as the old format!
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            #6
            Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

            I'm thinking
            1. report header

            2. page footer
            a. markings line
            b. conditional object that test if pageno()=1, then show the graph otherwise show a blank object that shrinks

            3. report footer with the graphic with the bottom of the page option on.
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

            Occam's Razor - KISS
            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
            Albert Einstein

            http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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              #7
              Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

              done some "hit-and-miss" testing, so far I can only get the single line of text produced on page 2 & page 3 but without changing the size of the Group Footer.
              In fact the only place I can find where I can change this value using Object explorer is :RIAT_Checklist_Testing:Rtf4.Object.Height , where I code this, I still have to find out!
              --
              Support your local Search and Rescue Unit, Get Lost!

              www.westrowops.co.uk

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                #8
                Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                Originally posted by Graham Wickens View Post
                done some "hit-and-miss" testing, so far I can only get the single line of text produced on page 2 & page 3 but without changing the size of the Group Footer.
                In fact the only place I can find where I can change this value using Object explorer is :RIAT_Checklist_Testing:Rtf4.Object.Height , where I code this, I still have to find out!
                Are you looking at the can shrink property of the band and object ( field and conditional)?
                Al Buchholz
                Bookwood Systems, LTD
                Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                Occam's Razor - KISS
                Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                Albert Einstein

                http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                  #9
                  Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                  The only place I can find that allows me the option of "Can Shrink" is in the properties of the RTF in the page footer, the result is 4 blank footers all the same size!! I assume there must be a way as you are trying to point me in the right direction!, or is the only way of doing it is to learn how to write scripts in MS Word that set up all the correct headers and footers for me when I open the rtf created by A5V8?
                  --
                  Support your local Search and Rescue Unit, Get Lost!

                  www.westrowops.co.uk

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                    #10
                    Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                    Right click the detail line in the report and open the properties for that region - click the region tab.

                    Each region (band ) of the report has the same property.

                    A conditional object has a checkbox for object can shrink on the setup tab of it's properties.
                    Al Buchholz
                    Bookwood Systems, LTD
                    Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                    Occam's Razor - KISS
                    Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                    Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                    When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                    "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                    Albert Einstein

                    http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                      #11
                      Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                      Sorry,

                      I cannot see what I am doing wrong, and I am getting very frustrated over this. I have got everything else setup and working (I am not an A5 professional, just a user of A5 for all my hobby projects does not help either!). I have the layout almost done, but cannot change the height of the Page Footer on pages 2 and 3, see attached.
                      Attached Files
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                      Support your local Search and Rescue Unit, Get Lost!

                      www.westrowops.co.uk

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                        #12
                        Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                        Move the aircraft markings to the top of the page footer. Then the optional image can shrink with the region.

                        The shrinking only occurs from the bottom up.......
                        Al Buchholz
                        Bookwood Systems, LTD
                        Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                        Occam's Razor - KISS
                        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                        Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                        "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                        Albert Einstein

                        http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                          #13
                          Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                          Well I moved the "markings text" to the top, but same result, I'm missing something I think.
                          Attached is stripped down application for this report, might help to see what I am doing wrong!!
                          Attached Files
                          --
                          Support your local Search and Rescue Unit, Get Lost!

                          www.westrowops.co.uk

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                            #14
                            Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                            Graham

                            The conditional object has a property to allow it to shrink.

                            Clicked that option and it works as requested.coShrink.PNG

                            Also, the image file wasn't included, but didn't make a difference in this case...
                            Al Buchholz
                            Bookwood Systems, LTD
                            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                            Occam's Razor - KISS
                            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                            Albert Einstein

                            http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                              #15
                              Re: Reports with different headers/footers on each page

                              I'm getting a properties dialog that says the conditional shrink option is not available in a page footer.


                              shrink.gif
                              There can be only one.

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