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    Navigating in a Set v 10

    I wish I had stuck with V 4.5. This has given me nothing but problems.

    I have two tables- one with composer names and one with compositions, linked by an Id numeric field. They're linked in a set and everthing works find except I can't navigate within the set. There is an index to sort by Composer name and that seems to work fine. But when I search and it finds a given composer, when I try to navigate up or down it does strange things. First the down arrow starts up for several records and then stops. If I try to use the Page Down, nothing happens the first time I hit it, the second time it goes up instead. Now the arrow keys don't work and if there is more than one page of compositions for a given composer, it is impossible to navigate to the second page. I've created several similar sets over a period of time and each does the same thing.

    Do these people ever come out with "fixes" or updates? If so, I can't find them. I've come to the conclusion that this program is far too technical for an old home hacker like me. And you have to pay for support or to report possible bugs?

    Jerry

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    Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

    You can get the latest patch here:

    http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/A...chDownload.ASP


    You can send a bug report from the dropdown help menu on the toolbar from the CP.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    [email protected]
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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      #3
      Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

      Jerry,
      If you .zip and post a version of your application to this message board, you will get some help identifying your problem.
      Mike W
      __________________________
      "I rebel in at least small things to express to the world that I have not completely surrendered"

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        Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

        Jerry
        Navigation within a set is fundamental to Alpha5. If there was such a bug in any release...well..
        Let's have a look at how you have set up and what you attempt to do when it behaves as described.
        I suspect you will get a quick answer.

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          #5
          Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

          Thanks, fellas. I'm not sure what to zip up and send. I will start with the two tables, I guess. Seems like you may need more than that. I'm new at this particular game. Let me know please if this is the wrong information.

          Jerry
          Attached Files

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            #6
            Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

            The way you zip a database in alpha is go to contol panel, select tools, select zip database, select the .adb and the al_files, the db_ and cdx files for the tables, and zip those to a file and send us that.
            Last edited by Mike Wilson; 08-22-2011, 06:27 PM.
            Mike W
            __________________________
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              #7
              Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

              Thanks again. That was almost too easy. Here they are:
              Attached Files

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                Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                when I try to navigate up or down it does strange things. First the down arrow starts up for several records and then stops. If I try to use the Page Down, nothing happens the first time I hit it, the second time it goes up instead. Now the arrow keys don't work and if there is more than one page of compositions for a given composer, it is impossible to navigate to the second page..
                Jerry, I looked just at that aspect. Not at the structure or set - and it works, as follows;-
                Open the (only) browse.
                Note where your cursor is. If it is in an item on the form, press PgUp/PgDn (or the < and > icons on the bar) - scrolls through composer records.
                - Not cursor down - that will progress through fields and into the browse.
                - If focus is in the embedded browse (compositions) then cursor and key control is in that. Click an item on the form to scroll composers.

                Click on A-Z button and your scroll will become alphabetical in composers.
                Click on the binocular button (your form will blank but is headed with "Query by Form") - enter say "Bru*" in the composer fields, hit the run query button (it has a lightning bolt) and the first composer starting with "Bru" (Brubeck) will be displayed normally - PgDn or NEXT to the next composer.

                Always making sure that if you want to scroll through composers, have your cursor OUTSIDE of the embedded browse.
                If the browse has more "pages" (records) than you can view - THEN click inside the browse to control that.

                Try the above sequences,...It works smoothly, responsively with no glitches - as expected.

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                  #9
                  Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                  Even easier,
                  remove the composer form fields and add a parent embedded browse so you have an embedded browse for the composers and the songs (child) records. When you scroll through the composers, you will then see the child records change. I think you will like this view better to show what is happening.
                  Mike W
                  __________________________
                  "I rebel in at least small things to express to the world that I have not completely surrendered"

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                    #10
                    Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                    Very neat out the box option Mike - it suits this environment perfectly.

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                      Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                      Thanks. I guess I should have mentioned that this problem occurs in the browse view, not the form view. If you start from there, I first go to the index (ctrl-I) and chose "Alpha Composer Name". We're now sorted by composer. (The Id numbers are not necessarily in alpha order. The first alpha record is "Aarne" but is Id #1655). Could also just highlight the composer field, I guess and do an A-Z sort. Now do a control-K and search for, say, "Rachmaninoff". No problem, it takes you there. Then try to page down to see the second page of the Rachmaninoff listing. The cursor is in the highlighted first record in the "Id" column. After the page down, the cursor is still in the Id column but now the Id field is no longer highlighted. Hit page down again and you are no longer in Rachmaninoff, you've gone backwards and you wind up among the Puccini records. Hit page down again and you're back in Rachmaninoff and all seems well. But page up again and you're back to Puccini - having skipped over a fair share of Rachmaninoff's works. And I can't find a way to page down or scroll down to view the skipped records.....

                      Is it the index perhaps that screws this up? I never had this problem until I upgraded to Version 10. Not sure I understand Mike's solution. It almost sounds like what I'm doing.....

                      Thanks so much for your patience.

                      Jerry

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                        Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                        I guess I should have mentioned that this problem occurs in the browse view, not the form view.
                        Gee, do you think?

                        I see what you are seeing. It jumps all over the place. I don't use Ctrl-K, I use progressive lookups. Spare yourself time and grief and look at the attached, and search and find your guys through a progressive lookup on a form.
                        Attached Files
                        Mike W
                        __________________________
                        "I rebel in at least small things to express to the world that I have not completely surrendered"

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                          Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                          Well, at least I know now that I'm not crazy or seeing things. Wonder what causes that, AlphaFive???

                          I like your solution, Mike - thanks. Since I don't know how to do it, is there some way I can transfer that form to my main database file folder? Just moving the three s_composer files to that directory doesn't cut it......

                          Jerry

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                            Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                            Originally posted by jerfilm View Post
                            I have two tables- one with composer names and one with compositions, linked by an Id numeric field.
                            While this may have nothing to do with your problem, change the linking field from numeric to character. Numeric fields should only be used for mathematical calculations. You can use numbers in a character field to link the tables. Try it and see if it helps.
                            TYVM :) kenn

                            Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                              Re: Navigating in a Set v 10

                              Originally posted by jerfilm View Post
                              Well, at least I know now that I'm not crazy or seeing things. Wonder what causes that, AlphaFive???

                              I like your solution, Mike - thanks. Since I don't know how to do it, is there some way I can transfer that form to my main database file folder? Just moving the three s_composer files to that directory doesn't cut it......

                              Jerry
                              Create a blank form with the table or set needed. Then, just copy the objects on the form and paste on the new form.

                              "To my main database folder"????? What are you doing? There should only be one folder for the database in which the database files are stored. The database folder can contain other folders but they should only be the ones created by alpha or a folder created to hold graphics files (.jpg etc.) IOW, all the tables, sets, etc., should be in the same folder. No sub folders.
                              TYVM :) kenn

                              Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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