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    Default V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Can it be used in desktop applications?

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I don't think so, but it is on the wish list. Maybe you can go there and vote for it??
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I would doubt it being that its done with jquery.
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Just because its done in jquery doesn't mean it is limited to the web. You can put web based stuff in forms or xdialog.

    selwyn Portlets - 24-01-2011 -1.txt

    Is something I started work on back in January and showed Selwyn because he was interested at the time. It is a framework for drag and drop jquery portlets on an MDI Xdialog.

    There is potential for anything that is web based to be on the desktop as well with V11.

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I agree lance but from what I understand about this component is a third party licence which is based on a per domain licensing.
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Yes I was very concerned about the cost of the Calendar feature pack and that We would have to pay on top of it to use it, so I questioned this, and got an email assuring me that all the fuctionality of the calendar, GIS (Mapping) and mobile feature would be included with the subscription. So I subscribed!

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    Me too!

    I hope you're right

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Here is one of the latest adds from marketing at alpha not sure how to take it, in regards to the schedule component.

    http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe5e1...7c670c74751c73
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    here is the reply to the email I sent, seems pretty convincing to me

    Hello Lance,

    You Asked: “I am interested in the subscription offer, but am concerned about the calendar/schedule action pack that is 800 and extra to buy the additional software license? What is the extra when we were told this would be included in v11”



    I’m not sure if I understand your question fully. The calendar feature along with GIS (mapping) and mobile feature are all included in the Charter Subscription plan.
    If I dont get to use the calendar, without spending extra, then somebody at Alpha has some explaining to do!

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    (This feature pack requires the use of a 3rd party component, sold separately.)

    Regular price: $799
    The way I read it, the $799 is for Alpha's work in providing the hooks to a 3rd party package and that cost is included in the subscription. The 3rd party component sounds like it needs to be purchased separately but it does not indicate if it is a one time purchase or a per server purchase.
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I think my question to Alpha was pretty self explanitory, I asked it because I had seen what Chad and Jeff are pointing out. I have also gone on the web2cal (the 3rd party component) site and seen what they give away and sell.

    I have somewhere, an email documenting that Alpha would be striking a deal with the calendar component company, which is why I presume the cost of this particular feature pack is so high compared to others. I think the reply from Alpha confirms that the calendar is included in my charter subscription, if I cannot use it because I dont have some other component, then it may be included but it is useless!

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Ok this was added to the wiki on the 8th September

    Calendar Component
    Optional feature pack, included in subscription; requires an additional 3rd-party license that is not included in a subscription
    2 weeks after I got the e-mail from Alpha, I feel I have been misled!

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Gurd View Post
    Ok this was added to the wiki on the 8th September

    2 weeks after I got the e-mail from Alpha, I feel I have been misled!
    This was in a Sept 13th promo (and perhaps previously?)...

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I spotted it at the time of my query to Alpha, from the emailed response I was led to believe that the calendar component would work under the charter subscription plan. Obviously this is not the case, unless I get the additional component.

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    I would really like someone from Alpha and/or someone using the v11 beta to speak to this, because a phone conversation with a sales rep had me believing that this was part of the subscription plan as well.

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    In light of the email from Richard to Lance I would think clarification is required. My reading of the advert is that you need to spend more bucks on a third party component but Richards response didn't comment on the license issue that Lance raised. I can see why that would lead you to beleive there are no issues and nothing else to pay as I'm sure Richard wouldn't of dodged it intentionally.

    If it is a deal breaker I would imagine they will refund the money to those that feel they have been misled or have misinterpreted ambiguous correspondence. However, if Lances's interpretation is correct and you don't need to purchase a 3rd party component under the subscription plan then the advert needs to explain things more clearly.

    I rolled the dice back in January and signed up to the charter subscription even though I new I wouldn't get a lot of time to use V10, it would seem it is going to be money well spent. From what I can gather Alpha have taken on much of the critism of the past few years and are trying to do something about it. I'm sure it won't be perfect but I'm hoping that with all these new features they have managed to improve the stability of the product because no one wants a repeat of V9. That's why I'm happy to wait for it to be ready and I think the payment of the charter subscriptions has enabled them (financially) not to have to rush it out. Fingers crossed.

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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeredith17 View Post
    In light of the email from Richard to Lance I would think clarification is required. My reading of the advert is that you need to spend more bucks on a third party component but Richards response didn't comment on the license issue that Lance raised. I can see why that would lead you to beleive there are no issues and nothing else to pay as I'm sure Richard wouldn't of dodged it intentionally.
    TO clarify, I did not seen where Lance mentioned that it was Richard that replied to his email question. It could have been a salesperson or someone else at Alpha.
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Yes as Jeff pointed out I did not mention Richard, and it was from a salesperson

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    My apologies Lance you are right you didn't mention Richard. It had been a long day and I think because most my correspondence in the past has been with Richard I must have subconciously assumed the email was from him. Either way I would be surprised if they didn't offer you your money back if you decided you didn't want the subscription due to the confusion over the calender.

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    Hopefully there was a discount negotiated for Alpha users. Gaining a whole group of developers could really bump up their sales.

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    I just looked back at an email in regards to the charter subscription and it clearly states that it uses a 3rd party software. I may seem that the car was sold without the key but they did tell us in the emails. Have a look at the advertisement.

    Maybe Alpha is developing there own software to work with this component!

    http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe581...766c077a741d74
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    Rep <> sales person! Salesperson has valid knowledge and/or will get a good answer before committing to something. I would therefore call a rep a rep and a salesperson a salesperson.

    Conversation today with one of the reps trying to sell the package to me: you do NOT have to sign up for anything extra pay to use the calendar scheduler if you get the maximum package and you can deploy all the runtimes you want with no extra cost.

    NOW the real kicker from this rep: you can access that from a web phone or tablet(remember, this is desktop).

    Validity of this rep? Unknown!!

    My belief is: there are unknowledgeable "reps" trying to be salespeople at Alpha right now. I always loved it when I got a customer that had been at another dealership(remember I was in the car business for over 50 years) that had been misled about product, pricing, financing and service. I ate them up!!!
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    Default Re: V11 Calendar-Scheduler

    Did you happen to get a reps name?
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    Yes
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