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Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

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    Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

    Greetings Alpha gurus,

    Several of you use our run-as-a-service product AlwaysUp to start the Alpha Five Application Server at boot and keep it running 24/7. Thank you - we appreciate your support!

    I just wanted to inform others looking to use AlwaysUp that we have recently prepared a tutorial / guide showing how to properly configure Alpha Five with AlwaysUp:
    http://www.coretechnologies.com/prod...sAService.html

    The key step is to have the service run in a Windows account that can run Alpha normally (probably the account in which you installed A5). Without this, the server may fail to find the settings it needs for printing, email, etc.

    Note that multiple instances of the application server are fully supported.

    And special thanks go to Steve Wood for reviewing the guide and as usual, providing insightful feedback.
    Last edited by CoreTech; 10-07-2011, 02:37 AM.

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    Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

    I am using AlwaysUp without a specific user account. I cannot edit the server parameters unless I stop the service & then launch the appserver from the start menu (not as a service).
    If I enter a user account to run the service AlwaysUp warns that the user must have specific rights to allow the application to interact with the desktop. That is exactly what I want but I don't get the system tray icon visible although the account I use is a member of the administrators group. 2011-10-12_1808.png

    Is there anything I can do ?
    Frank

    Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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      #3
      Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

      I'd like to know how to do this too... it's very annoying that i have to stop the whole website to load it individually.

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        Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

        Turns out that when you run on a 2008 server you cannot let the was interact with the desktop but when logged on you can restart the was "in the current session" from the application
        menu (restart in this session) in AlwaysUp and then it will show it's systray icon (until you log off) This works far better/smoother compared to stopping the was in Alwaysup then starting the was from the start menu. Note however that you are restarting the was so users currently logged on may get interrupted.
        Thanks to the people from Coretech for pointing me to their FAQ at http://www.coretechnologies.com/prod...FAQ.html#NoGUI
        Last edited by Clipper87; 10-14-2011, 04:02 AM. Reason: forgot detailed instruction
        Frank

        Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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          Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

          If you use a single instance of the WAS, then simply start another instance from the start menu. It will not start completely because the port is already in use by the instance in AlwaysUP, but you can right click on the red orb and access the configuration form. Since you are probably using the default configfile, this will change it. Then restart the WAS in AlwaysUP to apply the changes. Personally, I only use the rignt click to set the email profile (and that's usually a one time thing ). For all other changes, I just do them directly in the configfile, then restart the WAS in AlwaysUP. If you are using multiple instances either through different ports or ip binding, then you are already familiar with creating and modifying the configfiles.

          I usually copy the configfile(s) into a shallower directory, like C:\A5\a5configs and work on it from there...Alpha by default burys it pretty deep.

          If you do use multiple instances, I've found it's best to space the startups by about 30 seconds. In some cases starting several at once will cause them to lock up, so do the first at 30, the next at 60 and so on. I've found that spacing to be fine for the slowest machines. Then you can watch them start up in task manager and adjust if yours are loading faster. This setting is on the AlwaysUP startup tab.

          One more tip, when applying a new Alpha patch, I just go to AlwaysUp, do a stop all, apply the patch, then start all. Otherwise, Alpha will issue a message to restart the server, which most people will read as restart the physical server.

          Great product. I use it on every site.
          Pat Bremkamp
          MindKicks Consulting

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            #6
            Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

            Pat,

            That is very usefull information you give here about starting multiple instances with a delay!

            Thx
            Frank

            Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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              Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

              Tip: How to access the Alpha Server's Tray Icon when it is running in Session 0 with AlwaysUp

              As many of you using Windows Server 2008 have learned, AlwaysUp is sometimes unable to automatically start A5 and show the task tray icon on your desktop. This is usually because of "Session 0 Isolation", introduced in Windows Vista and present in Windows 7 and Server 2008 as well. We have recommended using AlwaysUp's "Restart in the Current Session" functionality to make your tray icon visible, but this is less than ideal because it briefly stops the server (and kicks off any users logged on).

              Fortunately, with the help of forum member leetv, we have developed a more appealing option! By running the Windows Explorer in Session 0 with AlwaysUp, your A5 tray icons are readily available when you switch to Session 0. This tutorial shows you how to set things up:
              How to Show your Application's Tray Icons when Running in Session 0 with AlwaysUp

              I am happy to report that leetv is now running multiple instances of Alpha with AlwaysUp and all his tray icons are accessible without having to restart the servers!

              As always, please PM me (or send an email to "[email protected]") if you have any questions or run into trouble with the tutorial. Any and all feedback is welcome.

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                Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                One more thing I just discovered. If you want to specify your own config file, then in AlwaysUp, you cannot have spaces around the equals sign. So, for example, in one of my applicaitons, I set (on the General tab), the Application to

                C:\Program Files (x86)\a5V11 ApplicationServer\A5ApplicationServer.exe

                and the Arguments to

                -ConfigFile = c:\a5\a5configs\4000_EGW_V11_Config.xml

                but, it did not work. I had to change to

                -ConfigFile=c:\a5\a5configs\4000_EGW_V11_Config.xml

                Notice there are no spaces around the =
                Pat Bremkamp
                MindKicks Consulting

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                  Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                  Originally posted by Clipper87 View Post
                  ... you can restart the was "in the current session" from the application
                  menu (restart in this session) in AlwaysUp and then it will show it's systray icon ....
                  Oh marvelous - thank you so much for that! I was combing over their instructions for getting those little critters to show. This is quick, clean and simple.

                  Originally posted by Clipper87 View Post
                  Note however that you are restarting the was so users currently logged on may get interrupted.
                  And that too - don't care during setup (I'm setting up some staging/testing instances now) - but a good reminder for my live web site. I'll do that in the wee hours.
                  Wendy Welton
                  Architect
                  past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                  http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                    Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                    We use Task Scheduler to run the app server whenever the computer starts (regardless if a user is logged in or not). Free and simple. Just choose "On Computer Start" as the trigger for the Task and there you go.
                    Last edited by mvaughn; 11-06-2012, 10:37 AM.
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                      Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                      Hi Everyone,
                      As your suggestion I used AlwaysUp, but I have problem with print report, the error message is:

                      Report did not print. Error reported was:
                      'Alpha Five Printer' (for creating PDF, RTF and HTML output) is not installed. Re-install Alpha Five Application Server


                      Please Any Help ?!?!?!?
                      Best Regards,
                      Kamel Jazmati

                      [email protected]
                      Kamelj.com
                      @KamelZJ

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                        Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                        Originally posted by mvaughn View Post
                        We use Task Scheduler to run the app server whenever the computer starts (regardless if a user is logged in or not). Free and simple. Just choose "On Computer Start" as the trigger for the Task and there you go.
                        Brilliant & simple! (This tip/hint should display on the settings page of the applications server!)
                        Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
                        It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
                        RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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                          Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                          Kamal, just go to Devices and Printers and make the your AlphaFivePrinter the default printer.

                          See the first post in this conversation for links to other help.

                          --> AlwaysUp is signifcantly more than just 'restarting the WAS when the server restarts'.
                          Steve Wood
                          See my profile on IADN

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                            #14
                            Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                            Thank you Steve it's working now...
                            Best Regards,
                            Kamel Jazmati

                            [email protected]
                            Kamelj.com
                            @KamelZJ

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                              #15
                              Re: Guide: How to run Alpha Five as a Windows Service with AlwaysUp

                              Originally posted by SNusa View Post
                              Brilliant & simple! (This tip/hint should display on the settings page of the applications server!)
                              Works fine.

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