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    is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

    Hi guys, I have some rather complicated calc fields working out betting odds etc. I only have 4 of these fields on my form, but it's taking about 10 secs to open the form as a result. I need to get the calc values into variables so I can remove the calc fields from the form all together in an effort to speed things up. I did a test without the calc fields, and this cured the problem straight away. The value in these fields are required to do other stuff, so my question is:- "is it possible to set variables to calc field values when the calc fields are "NOT" on the form. ? This of course rules out setting variables to object values.

    Any help on this will be great.

    Thanks.
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    Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

    Where and when do you intend to use these variables?

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      #3
      Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

      Hi, on the actual form itself, and depending on the value will decide if my scripts run or not.

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        #4
        Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

        And when?

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          #5
          Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

          Straight away, based on the values.

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            #6
            Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

            Well then... its same folks different strokes.
            To assign values to these variables, alpha has to calculate them.
            Your problem is not in calc fields vs variables..your problem is these calculations are time-consuming.
            Perhaps if you post a sample of one or more, it might be possible to simplify them.

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              #7
              Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

              Hi, yes of course. The calc fields contains the values, but I don't want them on the form. Just trying to find out if this is possible to do without them being displayed on the form.

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                Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                If you totally eliminate the calc fields, as you found out, it takes a lot less to load the form.
                If, instead, you use variables in lieu of the calc fields, their values come from the same calculations used in the calc fields. You could do that, but it will take the same time if not longer to assign these variables those values based on those calculations.

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                  Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                  Ok, thanks. Not looking good then by all accounts.
                  I may have to restructure my fields then or put up with the form taking forever to load up.

                  Fred

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                    Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                    Fred, I think G is on the right track.

                    Calc display fields in your form layout are simply a variety of variable, for which you've defined specific expressions.

                    The script that opens a form can do calculations for you, before the form opens. Those calcs can be stored in variables that live in the form, or are global to the database. This answers your question, but probably isn't particularly helpful. That's why G requested that you post a sample. There may be ways to speed up the calculation that's running so slowly.

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                      #11
                      Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                      Fred,

                      Pls clarify something.

                      Are you talking about table fields for which you've defined calcs in field rules?

                      Or,

                      Are you talking about Calculated display fields defined in your form?

                      These are two very different things.

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                        Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                        Originally posted by Zradene View Post
                        Ok, thanks. Not looking good then by all accounts.
                        I may have to restructure my fields then or put up with the form taking forever to load up.

                        Fred
                        You might consider calc field in the table itself and/or UDF.

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                          Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                          Hi Tom, thanks for that. I will take a look at my calc fields to check them over to make sure they are working as they should be. Strange thing is, that a similar set of 14 calc fields on a differant form work perfectly without any delay in opening that particular form. The calcs are almost identical so I am a bit confused.

                          Fred

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                            Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                            Hi G, yeah have tried that, but I need to reference other Calc fields which are not available in the expression builder when creating table calc fields.

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                              Re: is it possible to set variables if they are "NOT" on a Form ?

                              Strange thing is, that a similar set of 14 calc fields on a differant form work perfectly without any delay in opening that particular form. The calcs are almost identical so I am a bit confused.
                              Fred,

                              I'm curious. Is there a difference in the ordering of the calc fields in the XY Calculated Field grid between the two forms?

                              In my work here where I have calculations that depend upon previous calculations, I try to arrange them in the correct sequence from top to bottom. If a calc depends on another calc I define them in the XY builder in the correct order. Might this explain the difference in behavior between your forms?

                              Things that slow down my forms:
                              a) using complex sets to support them
                              b) using calc display fields that have to retrieve information from external tables repeatedly
                              c) using complex sequences to dynamically change the color or behavior of objects in my layout

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